[ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
mark witt
aztexan45 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 9 01:47:53 GMT 2006
Hi Dan...thanks for the research...I'm interested to see what he finds out.
I believe I might have spoken to him several months back and he steered me
toward Leif Johnson Ford. They said they could work on it and were still
qualified etc....That all changed when they saw the truck after I paid to
have it towed over there. No one had ever seen a Ranger EV or any other EV
for that matter at all. Although I carefully explained what I had they
thought I had the Escape hybrid. I did talk them into paying for the tow
back to my house which was something at least.
It would be cool if there was a pack lift or other stuff left over
somewhere in town that we could use. FYI....I think the 1st production
Ranger EV wasn't until 1998 (mines a '99) so maybe he's off on the service
dates? Who knows...keep us posted..thanks again..Witt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV
>From: "jtp" <jtp at onr.com>
>Reply-To: AustinEV News Announcements and General
>Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
>To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
><ausev at austinev.org>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:24:01 -0700
>
>From: Dan Petit. I've checked to see if there is any archived service
>procedure on the battery pack replacement for the 97 Electric Ranger from
>Covert Ford service manager, Mr. Webb. He advised me that Leif Johnson
>Ford
>"were certified to do it". [Ten years ago].
>But he said he'd look into it to see if there were any archived service
>procedures in the interest of safety.
>And, also, he would additionally check to see if it would be something that
>they would be able to handle if you wanted. [Seeing as they likely may
>have
>any specially- designed service equipment, or access to it if there were no
>other options]. I suggested that he also check with the Covert's (owners)
>to see if there may be some avenue of promotional value to increase sales
>of hybrids, if not help put forward grassroots interest in plug-in
>gaselectrics
>from Ford Motor, all in light of having the work done as an offset for the
>promotional value for hybrids and future gaselectrics/plug-ins, depending
>on
>interest of the owners as well as yourself. But at least, for the
>considerations of safety, he is doing some archival research.
> Dan Petit.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mark witt" <aztexan45 at hotmail.com>
>To: <ausev at austinev.org>
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
>
>
> > Chris is right..results were minimal...but on a good note the hot dogs
>were
> > only slightly burned and the chili was ok and not too lava like..nobody
>was
> > crushed or shocked or sunburned. Plus Derek wrote down alot of life and
>time
> > saving things and Chris looked up some cool tools on line that we may be
> > able to rent here in town. I would like to regroup on Sunday the 20th to
> > take another stab at it. In the meantime we will try to hammer out what
>to
> > procure to proceed.
> > On that note I talked to a friend of mine who steered me toward these
> > jacks
> >
> >
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=1600153
>72285&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
> >
> > ...(ebay or where ever....which made me go out and look at the rear
>bumper
> > on the Ranger and examine it and see that it is quite substantial..maybe
> > more so than my gasoline Ranger bumper...ok ...so say we get the truck
>up
>to
> > 40+ inches high and then use something similar to the 2200 lbs. rolling
>lift
> > that Chris saw(see his link)
> >
>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_1037691_1
>037691
> >
> > to lower the pack.
> > On the front of the truck where no such good bumper exists we use a
>long
> > ,tall floor jack with appropriate after supports. It's all nice and
>level
> > and we still have enough room to roll the pack out....Ponder and let me
>know
> > the pros and cons of this...(ie how we clear the ball joints etc. in the
> > front).....I'm keeping the faith...Witt
> >
> >
> > >From: "Chris Robison" <eeyore at phototropia.org>
> > >Reply-To: eeyore at phototropia.org, AustinEV News Announcements
>and
> > >General Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
> > >To: eeyore at phototropia.org, "AustinEV News Announcements and
>General
> > >Discussion" <ausev at austinev.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
> > >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:38:40 -0500 (CDT)
> > >
> > >BTW, it sounds below like I was the one to have discovered my error in
> > >recalling the dimensions of the pack from the first time we went over
> > >there to look at it. It was actually Derek who carefully measured
> > >everything, and told me politely why my crazy scheme wouldn't work.
>:o)
> > >
> > > --chris
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, August 7, 2006 1:24 pm, Chris Robison said:
> > > > The results from Sunday were pretty minimal. Mark Witt can probably
> > > > elaborate further, but my [re]discovery was that the pack is much
>taller
> > > > than I'd recalled, up in front where they have a second layer of
> > > > batteries.
> > > >
> > > > Essentially, lowering the 1900-lb pack and raising the remainder of
>the
> > > > truck to clear it, are two completely separate problems which must
>both
> > >be
> > > > solved. And the height to which the truck must be lifted will be
> > >difficult
> > > > to achieve at both ends. If we can get away with only having to
>lift
>it
> > > > at one end (the front) then we might be able to do it with an engine
> > > > hoist. If not, then we will have to get more creative, or rent a
>bay
> > >with
> > > > a lift that can grab the vehicle from the sides.
> > > >
> > > > Lowering the pack is probably doable with Witt's palette jack though
>it
> > > > will be tricky. Otherwise it might be a job for a mid-rise scissor
>lift,
> > > > which would also be nice to have for raising cars:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_20010267
>4_200102674
> > > >
> > > > Or something more like a hydraulic lift cart:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_1037691_
>1037691
> > > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_20010267
>4_200102674
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, August 7, 2006 12:38 pm, R. D. Childers said:
> > > >> Woops. I showed up at Chris's house on Saturday and missed the
>Sunday
> > > >> show.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Aaron Choate" <achoate at gmail.com>
> > > >> To: "AustinEV" <ausev at austinev.org>; "AustinEV Announce"
> > > >> <ausev-announce at austinev.org>
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:09 AM
> > > >> Subject: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Good day all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mark Witt will be hosting this week's open garage.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sunday (not Saturday) 8-6-2006 12:30
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Come help work on a factory Ford Ranger battery pack swap and
>learn
> > > >>> about how they put the vehicle together. The group will get
>together
> > > >>> to plan the swap and work out how the new batteries will be going
>into
> > > >>> the pack.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> hot dogs and refreshments and after we are done those who want to
> > > >>> hang out in the backyard and watch "Pirates of the Caribbean" on
>the
> > > >>> big
> > > >>> screen can when it gets dark.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mark Witt
> > > >>> 7209 wild onion dr.
> > > >>> Austin, tx 78744
> > > >>> 512-294-5308
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