[ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap

mark witt aztexan45 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 9 02:01:44 GMT 2006 

Hey I think I saw a Ranger they were selling on Ebay a few months ago. I 
don't know what became of it but I remember the area where it was 
from..Thetford Mines area in Quebec. hmmmm I didn't know it had a different 
pack in it or maybe it was a different truck... Witt


>From: "Marc Kohler" <mkohler at austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: AustinEV News Announcements and General 
>Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
>To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion" 
><ausev at austinev.org>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:35:39 -0500
>
>you might also want to contact the guys at www.alternativ.ca as they
>replaced their Ford Ranger EV pack with Li-ion.
>If anything, perhaps they can offer some advice.
>Marc
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jtp" <jtp at onr.com>
>To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
><ausev at austinev.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
>
>
> > From:  Dan Petit.     I've checked to see if there is any archived 
>service
> > procedure on the battery pack replacement for the 97 Electric Ranger 
>from
> > Covert Ford service manager, Mr. Webb.  He advised me that Leif Johnson
>Ford
> > "were certified to do it". [Ten years ago].
> > But he said he'd look into it to see if there were any archived service
> > procedures in the interest of safety.
> > And, also, he would additionally check to see if it would be something
>that
> > they would be able to handle if  you wanted. [Seeing as they likely may
>have
> > any specially- designed service equipment, or access to it if there were
>no
> > other options].   I suggested that he also check with the Covert's
>(owners)
> > to see if there may be some avenue of  promotional value to increase 
>sales
> > of hybrids, if not help put forward grassroots interest in plug-in
> > gaselectrics
> > from Ford Motor,  all in light of having the work done as an offset for
>the
> > promotional value for hybrids and future gaselectrics/plug-ins, 
>depending
>on
> > interest of the owners as well as yourself. But at least, for the
> > considerations of safety, he is doing some archival research.
> >              Dan Petit.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mark witt" <aztexan45 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <ausev at austinev.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery swap
> >
> >
> > > Chris is right..results were minimal...but on a good note the hot dogs
> > were
> > > only slightly burned and the chili was ok and not too lava 
>like..nobody
> > was
> > > crushed or shocked or sunburned. Plus Derek wrote down alot of life 
>and
> > time
> > > saving things and Chris looked up some cool tools on line that we may 
>be
> > > able to rent here in town. I would like to regroup on Sunday the 20th 
>to
> > > take another stab at it. In the meantime we will try to hammer out 
>what
>to
> > > procure to proceed.
> > >    On that note I talked to a friend of mine who steered me toward 
>these
> > > jacks
> > >
> > >
> >
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=1600153
> > 72285&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
> > >
> > > ...(ebay or where ever....which made me go out and look at the rear
>bumper
> > > on the Ranger and examine it and see that it is quite 
>substantial..maybe
> > > more so than my gasoline Ranger bumper...ok ...so say we get the truck
>up
> > to
> > > 40+ inches high and then use something similar to the 2200 lbs. 
>rolling
> > lift
> > > that Chris saw(see his link)
> > >
> >
>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_1037691_1
> > 037691
> > >
> > >   to lower the pack.
> > >    On the front of the truck where no such good bumper exists we use a
> > long
> > > ,tall floor jack with appropriate after supports. It's all nice and
>level
> > > and we still have enough room to roll the pack out....Ponder and let 
>me
> > know
> > > the pros and cons of this...(ie how we clear the ball joints etc. in 
>the
> > > front).....I'm keeping the faith...Witt
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Chris Robison" <eeyore at phototropia.org>
> > > >Reply-To: eeyore at phototropia.org,        AustinEV News Announcements
>and
> > > >General Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
> > > >To: eeyore at phototropia.org,        "AustinEV News Announcements and
> > General
> > > >Discussion" <ausev at austinev.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery 
>swap
> > > >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:38:40 -0500 (CDT)
> > > >
> > > >BTW, it sounds below like I was the one to have discovered my error 
>in
> > > >recalling the dimensions of the pack from the first time we went over
> > > >there to look at it.  It was actually Derek who carefully measured
> > > >everything, and told me politely why my crazy scheme wouldn't work.
>:o)
> > > >
> > > >   --chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Mon, August 7, 2006 1:24 pm, Chris Robison said:
> > > > > The results from Sunday were pretty minimal.  Mark Witt can 
>probably
> > > > > elaborate further, but my [re]discovery was that the pack is much
> > taller
> > > > > than I'd recalled, up in front where they have a second layer of
> > > > > batteries.
> > > > >
> > > > > Essentially, lowering the 1900-lb pack and raising the remainder 
>of
> > the
> > > > > truck to clear it, are two completely separate problems which must
> > both
> > > >be
> > > > > solved. And the height to which the truck must be lifted will be
> > > >difficult
> > > > > to achieve at both ends.  If we can get away with only having to
>lift
> > it
> > > > > at one end (the front) then we might be able to do it with an 
>engine
> > > > > hoist.  If not, then we will have to get more creative, or rent a
>bay
> > > >with
> > > > > a lift that can grab the vehicle from the sides.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lowering the pack is probably doable with Witt's palette jack 
>though
> > it
> > > > > will be tricky. Otherwise it might be a job for a mid-rise scissor
> > lift,
> > > > > which would also be nice to have for raising cars:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_20010267
> > 4_200102674
> > > > >
> > > > > Or something more like a hydraulic lift cart:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_1037691_
> > 1037691
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_20010267
> > 4_200102674
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   --chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, August 7, 2006 12:38 pm, R. D. Childers said:
> > > > >> Woops.  I showed up at Chris's house on Saturday and missed the
> > Sunday
> > > > >> show.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Aaron Choate" <achoate at gmail.com>
> > > > >> To: "AustinEV" <ausev at austinev.org>; "AustinEV Announce"
> > > > >> <ausev-announce at austinev.org>
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:09 AM
> > > > >> Subject: [ausev] OPEN GARAGE: 8-6-2006 12:30 -- Ranger battery 
>swap
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Good day all,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Mark Witt will be hosting this week's open garage.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sunday (not Saturday) 8-6-2006 12:30
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Come help work on a factory Ford Ranger battery pack swap and
>learn
> > > > >>> about how they put the vehicle together.  The group will get
> > together
> > > > >>> to plan the swap and work out how the new batteries will be 
>going
> > into
> > > > >>> the pack.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> hot dogs and refreshments and after we are done those who want 
>to
> > > > >>> hang out in the backyard and watch "Pirates of the Caribbean" on
>the
> > > > >>> big
> > > > >>> screen can when it gets dark.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Mark Witt
> > > > >>> 7209 wild onion dr.
> > > > >>> Austin, tx 78744
> > > > >>> 512-294-5308
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