[ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5
jtp
jtp at onr.com
Sun Aug 13 15:41:08 GMT 2006
Ron,
That Toyota Camry Hybrid should get far more fuel economy.
Unfortunately, the levels of technology needed to produce a hybrid or any
other auto or light truck nowadays, far, far exceeds the educational
"system" (if you can call it that) that has been inattentive to technical
reality for the last 15 years. (Media which whines that it is all "too
technical" is also partly to blame, it seems to me, yet they make a great
portion of thier income from manufacturers' vehicle ads). I would be so
impressed if vehicle manufacturers "put their foot down" on this whining and
demand some minimal technical production "say", one simple technical
statement at a time. (Heck, perverted producers promoting "bug eating"
have had plenty of their "free speech" "say").
If your dealership is unable to analyze the datastreams from the PCM
(Program Control Module), and verify that the systems are not running "Dumb"
or "Default" or "Offline" (sounds like our current Federal and State
"leadership" as pertains to technologies via lack of solid education), then,
let me know, and I will gladly provide a complete Waveform Analysis of your
vehicle. If it is under factory warranty, a simple printout from the scan
system I use, (The Genisys Next Generation Information System), will ALWAYS
get the ball rolling for you to get the respected attention your Toyota
deserves.
I teach L-1 "Advanced Engine" technicians how to set up diagnostic
waveforms and the interpretation of those waveforms utilizing the very
latest and advanced Genisys model.
I have only certified one technician so far this year as a Certified
Waveform Analyst. This is because the amount of self-study required by the
tech is enourmous before his waveform analysis diagnostics are absolutely
clear, correct, thorough, and of course, result in a successful outcome.
But he must also properly debrief to the owner as to what went wrong and
what the owner could have done if the problem was preventable. (In this
case, he properly diagnosed a plugged EGR system from the owner using cheap
gas which was NON-TIER-1, Shell being by far the best one of those. There is
NOT a close "second" TIER-1 gasoline in my diagnostic experience.)
The other problem that we all have about the insane levels and number
of types of different internal combustion engine systems (over 538,000
systems is the number which Genisys diagnoses), is that there simply is not
enough "bay time" which can feasibly be dedicated to only one vehicle,
(given the obscene levels of overhead that shop owners are forced to
burden). Both in terms of economics and "other people waiting to have thier
car diagnosed", AND, our brains' limited 4 hour per day "heavy
diagnostic problem-tracing cognitive and context-processing ability"
under the very finest of circumstances of the best working envirionment, the
best equipment, and the best training for that equipment.
Find a technician whom "has the proper amount of time" for your problems,
and whom has been trained to use the best equipment to completely advise you
as to exactly what is going on. Do not be "marketed" away from him.
A 2001 Corvette in which I had simply "mapped" baselines (with GM Access
Protocols), (providing recordings of normal readings) without any
diagnostics at all, for the 20 processors contained within the Corvette,
took 2.75 hours just to access them with quick recording.
2003 and later vehicles are escalating to up toward 64 processors in what
is known as Controller Area Network (Local Area Network), (OBDIII),
communicating over an antenna wire. (I teach those to techs as well).
Each and every single vehicle is a complete study in itself. The
"addicting" thing about the Genisys is that once you are trained on one,
there comes a complete fascination and practically-incredible and helpful
universe which opens up to you, (especially on domestic vehicles) and, over
the years, all the PCM technologies of the past, present, and even a clear
expectation of what to see in the future, become more and more apparent.
But you must "work" each diagnosis, as Genisys is NOT a "star-trek"
"tricorder" "magic-box". You have to intellectually work.
(SPX/OTC Genisys is 10 years ahead of everything else, PERIOD).
Let me know if you would like a free scan of your Toyota Camry Hybrid, with
TOYOTA access protocols.
Dan Petit. 834 - 2141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Thorne" <jthorne at ices.utexas.edu>
To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
<ausev at austinev.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5
> Rob Hirschfeld wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks and am glad to join the
> > crowd of newbies doing intros. I've been interested in electric cars
> > since for a long time: in fact, I'm getting deju vu from my 10 year
> > old's interest in them too. I'm very excited that the time seems to be
> > upon us.
> >
> > I was impressed with both the WKTEC and the AustinEV display. This is a
> > very impressive group.
> >
> > My background is primarily in software that controls other things.
> > Today I write building access control systems. In the past I've worked
> > on controls for robots, oil pipelines/platforms, injection molding, and
> > virtual servers.
> >
> > QUESTION: I'm in the market for a new car (and don't have time to wait
> > for a conversion) - Does anyone have a suggestion for a hybrid? My
> > first pick has been the Honda Civic, but I don't know anyone who has
> > one. The Prius is a close second. I'd like to try get a PHEV option,
> > but don't want to kill the warranty on a new car. Thoughts?
> >
> >
>
> I don't recommend the Toyota Camry Hybrid. I just bought one and it is
> getting about 30 mpg. It has bells and whistles, but I'm more
> interested in mileage that razzmatazz. All-gasoline Camrys can do
> better than 30 mpg. A replacement rear view mirror for the thing cost
> $200--an indication of parts costs ahead. The thing hardly ever drives
> using electricity. The gas transmission kicks in even at slow speeds on
> a level road. Anybody want to but a Camry Hybrid with 2000 miles on it?
>
>
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