[ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.

jtp jtp at onr.com
Wed Aug 23 22:49:44 GMT 2006


I've checked with A1 Imports (wrecking yard) used parts, and, they get
hybrids in frequently.   The cost for an electric AC compressor is $300 plus
tax.  Ira Copple himself has a Prius, and works on it himself,   High and
low voltage systems,  transmission, and etc.  He has other hybrid parts
which would be of high interest for the club as well.   He is very
technically versed in how the parts work, and,  he gave me the name of
another used parts supplier in Virginia  (Bills' Auto Parts at 1800 - 699 -
2002) if anyone feels adventuresome in considering feasibility.  (Check
operational voltage, wattage, and displacements/fittings,  controls, safety
switches and cycling switches in order to get "in the ball park" for
feasibility.)
Dan Petit.
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How about doing a price listing for and electric ac compressor from a
wrecked vehicle so equipped.  Then, installing it with a "Smart variable
orifice" valve which is self-regulating for the best cooling,  given any
experimental system displacement.  Calibrating the best charge of 134a for
it would be very easy with a computerized 134a charging/recovery station
(which I have).  The bottom line is the cost of the electric AC compressor
as are seen on many hybrids nowadays.
Dan Petit.

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Dry ice is solid CO2. It would fill the passenger area up with CO2,
displacing air.
 Keith

"The unaware are unaware that they are unaware."



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Silly, question, why no use dry ice?  Or would that not last long
enough?

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From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
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How did you deal with the condensation on the coil?   I tried this with
a
large ice chest full of icewater, a transmission oil cooler and a couple
muffin fans, and a small 12V marine bilge pump, and not only was the
cooling adequate for only a short time (until the ice melted, maybe 10
minutes as I recall) but the condensation was such that it made the
setup almost unusable.  I kept a plastic bag underneath to protect my
upholstery and carpet from the drips, and had a significant collection
of water to
(carefully) empty afterward.

It was a hassle to get all the ice to the car, disappointing in the heat
of summer (in a 4-door Honda Civic) and a hassle to clean up afterward.
After a few attempts I considered the experiment a failure.

  --chris



On Wed, August 23, 2006 12:32 pm, Chris Cooper said:
> These things are so easy and cheap to build. I have built two of them;
one
> large enough to cool my old '86 dodge van. I pumped ice water from the
ice
> chest through the heater core.
>
> You need (basically):
> Ice chest
> Smallest 12V bilge pump from Wal Mart
> Some 1/2" through-wall barb connectors
> 1/2" water hose
> Heater core with 1/2" fittings
> 12V fan attached to the heater core or use the heater core in the
vehicle
> Large and small pieces of ice
> About 3" of water in the bottom of the ice chest
>
>
>
>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org]
On
> Behalf Of Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:19 AM
> To: kevin.koym at enterpriseteaming.com; ausev at austinev.org
> Subject: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.
>
> Hello Kevin,
>
> I live in Phoenix, AZ, where the summer heat tops 110F, often.  I'm
> rebuilding the Bradley GT2 Electric, which is a 96v-based EV.  I, too,

> and in search of the holy grail of EVs, a car that handles the daily
> commute (40-55 miles per charge) and can keep me cool in the heat.  My

> research--and searching--led me to the unit below.  I haven't
purchased
> it yet, but plan to have it for next summer's heat season.  It draws
> relatively few amps.  You may want to have your club members look it
> over, and I'd welcome their input.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard in Phoenix
>
>
> http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html
>
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