[ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 44
Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT
rslatin at aznetgate.net
Thu Aug 24 02:46:42 GMT 2006
OK EVers; Anyone with a 96v charger or 96v dc/dc converter for my 12v
battery? I'm buying if someone's selling. I haven't seen one on EV
Trading Post lately.
Richard in Phoenix
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> 1. Re: [Spam] Re: !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.
> (Roy Holder)
> 2. Re: 2/0 welding cable anyone? (Roy Holder)
> 3. Re: AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43 (Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT)
> 4. Re: 2/0 welding cable anyone? (Mike Delany)
> 5. Re: AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43 (Charles Birkhead)
> 6. Re: AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43 (jefoy at mindspring.com)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:29:22 -0500
>From: Roy Holder <roy at holder3.com>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] [Spam] Re: !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by
> Swampy.
>To: AustinEV News Announcements and General
> Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
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>well kevin, thats my EV. found your note too.
>talk to you tomorrow afternoon maby.
>Just saw it huh, its been there almost ever day.
>
>
>At 03:12 PM 8/23/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>thanks for the info on both the types of things to try. Hmmm... i might
>have to try this out before getting my EV.
>
>Oh... funny thing too- I just saw an EV in the parking lot here at the
>office. great to see that there is more movement on the EV front.
>
>thanks.
>kevin
>
>
>>thanks.
>>kevin
>> signature
>>
>>
>>Kevin Koym
>>kevin.koym at enterpriseteaming.com
>>+1.512.698.9328 mobile
>>
>>Enterprise Teaming, LLC
>>http://www.enterpriseteaming.com
>>
>>Chris Cooper wrote: These things are so easy and cheap to build. I have
>>built two of them; one large enough to cool my old '86 dodge van. I pumped
>>ice water from the ice chest through the heater core. You need
>>(basically): Ice chest Smallest 12V bilge pump from Wal Mart Some 1/2"
>>through-wall barb connectors 1/2" water hose Heater core with 1/2" fittings
>>12V fan attached to the heater core or use the heater core in the vehicle
>>Large and small pieces of ice About 3" of water in the bottom of the ice
>>chest C² -----Original Message----- From:
>>ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On Behalf Of
>>Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:19 AM To:
>>kevin.koym at enterpriseteaming.com; ausev at austinev.org Subject: [ausev]
>>!12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy. Hello Kevin, I live in
>>Phoenix, AZ, where the summer heat tops 110F, often. I'm rebuilding the
>>Bradley GT2 Electric, which is a 96v-based EV. I, too, and in search of
>>the holy grail of EVs, a car that handles the daily commute (40-55 miles
>>per charge) and can keep me cool in the heat. My research--and
>>searching--led me to the unit below. I haven't purchased it yet, but plan
>>to have it for next summer's heat season. It draws relatively few amps.
>>You may want to have your club members look it over, and I'd welcome their
>>input. Regards, Richard in Phoenix http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:33:04 -0500
>From: Roy Holder <roy at holder3.com>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] 2/0 welding cable anyone?
>To: AustinEV News Announcements and General
> Discussion<ausev at austinev.org>
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>I have a few pcs left over from my be-battery this last weekend.
>I went from 16 to 10 batts, so I have 4 links left over.
>
>BTW, the trojans are nice. work much better than the generic ones I had.
>
>At 08:30 PM 8/23/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>> Hi all, I tried to order the remaining battery cable I need
>>
>>
>>from the supplier I was ordering my lugs from, but they won’t break a
>
>
>>reel. I was ordering 25 feet, but 15 is closer to the number I think I
>>need. Does anyone have some I could buy or know a good local supplier? What
>>I’m specifically looking for is black 2/0 welding cable. Thanks!
>>Erik _______________________________________________ AusEV mailing
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:45:10 -0700
>From: "Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT" <rslatin at aznetgate.net>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43
>To: ausev at austinev.org
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>Ok, let's say one installs a conventional a/c auto system in an EV, but
>with the electric compressor. Remember, if you drive in the summer, it
>will be for an hour or two. How much will an electric a/c system impact
>the range of the vehicle? 20%? 30? A compressor is a
>compressor---with a big appetite for power. That's why I'm considering
>the chilled water system, much as a pain restockig it with ice may be.
>Minimal amp draw.
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>usev-request at austinev.org wrote:
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>>Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: electric a/c system (Maria Reyes)
>> 2. PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE MAILING LIST (Curtis Young)
>> 3. Re: !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy. (tomsmail)
>> 4. Re: PET battery strapping (Erik Bigelow)
>> 5. 2/0 welding cable anyone? (Erik Bigelow)
>> 6. Re: Little Car (Erik Bigelow)
>>
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:07:13 -0500
>>From: "Maria Reyes" <cheyennebabe at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [ausev] electric a/c system
>>To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
>> <ausev at austinev.org>
>>Message-ID:
>> <9305b3ec0608231507s40327936o73887b81d982eb0f at mail.gmail.com>
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>>Welcome to the group, Joey. I read all the emails that come through my
>>inbox...I am still to shy to actually reply to any, but I do read alot about
>>EVs. Like I was saying...welcome here.
>>Maria
>>
>>
>>On 8/23/06, Joey Carroll <joey.carroll at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>New guy here. No EV yet, but im looking at converting an 84 CRX, and I had
>>>some input on the 12v Aircon systems. I'm not sure if anyone has seen this
>>>story before, its about how 2 teenagers made a compressor free air
>>>conditioner using peltier thermoelectric chips. I know they aer terribly
>>>inefficient compared to phase change cooling, but I think there is some
>>>potential there. I recently got 2 of these chips off ebay for around $16,
>>>just to play around with, I'll bring them to the next open garage or meet if
>>>anyone wants to check them out.
>>>link: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/07/teens_invent_fr.php
>>>
>>>
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>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:12:20 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Mike Delany <mike at p1800s.com>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] 2/0 welding cable anyone?
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>With the price of copper as high as it is, I would call around and check
>prices. I just bought a 500 foot roll of 4 gauge thhn and almost had a
>heart attack at the checkout counter. $351 with tax.
>
>Mike
>
>Certified heathen and reformed pacifist
>
>http://www.p1800s.com
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>On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Erik Bigelow wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I tried to order the remaining battery cable I need from the supplier I
>>was ordering my lugs from, but they won't break a reel. I was ordering
>>25 feet, but 15 is closer to the number I think I need. Does anyone have
>>some I could buy or know a good local supplier? What I'm specifically
>>looking for is black 2/0 welding cable. Thanks!
>>
>>Erik
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:20:14 -0500
>From: "Charles Birkhead" <CB02 at ridemetro.org>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43
>To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
> <ausev at austinev.org>
>Message-ID:
> <955A3B3D4C3C8D48A9ED8DCF78D612C311AC0953 at pex2k01.ridemetro.org>
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>Expect an electric drive a/c to need ~1kw. An a/c for a small vehicle
>is ~6000 btu, or the equivalent to melting ~42lbs/hr ice (frozen water
>to liquid @ 32 deg F). The specific heat of water (liquid) is ~1btu/lb.
>This same quantity of water will absorb ~840 btu for a temp rise from 32
>to 52 deg F.
>
>The cooled air from the a/c needs to be ~60 deg (dry bulb) and ~45 deg
>(wet bulb) to 'feel' a significant cooling effect. See how many people
>in the area have swamp coolers in their homes. This will determine
>whether ice/chilled water is viable.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org
>[mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On Behalf Of Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:45 PM
> To: ausev at austinev.org
> Subject: Re: [ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43
>
>
> Ok, let's say one installs a conventional a/c auto system in an
>EV, but with the electric compressor. Remember, if you drive in the
>summer, it will be for an hour or two. How much will an electric a/c
>system impact the range of the vehicle? 20%? 30? A compressor is a
>compressor---with a big appetite for power. That's why I'm considering
>the chilled water system, much as a pain restockig it with ice may be.
>Minimal amp draw.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> usev-request at austinev.org wrote:
>
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> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
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> than "Re: Contents of AusEV digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: electric a/c system (Maria Reyes)
> 2. PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE MAILING LIST (Curtis
>Young)
> 3. Re: !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.
>(tomsmail)
> 4. Re: PET battery strapping (Erik Bigelow)
> 5. 2/0 welding cable anyone? (Erik Bigelow)
> 6. Re: Little Car (Erik Bigelow)
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:07:13 -0500
> From: "Maria Reyes" <cheyennebabe at gmail.com>
><mailto:cheyennebabe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] electric a/c system
> To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
> <ausev at austinev.org> <mailto:ausev at austinev.org>
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><9305b3ec0608231507s40327936o73887b81d982eb0f at mail.gmail.com>
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> Welcome to the group, Joey. I read all the emails that
>come through my
> inbox...I am still to shy to actually reply to any, but
>I do read alot about
> EVs. Like I was saying...welcome here.
> Maria
>
>
> On 8/23/06, Joey Carroll <joey.carroll at gmail.com>
><mailto:joey.carroll at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> New guy here. No EV yet, but im looking at
>converting an 84 CRX, and I had
> some input on the 12v Aircon systems. I'm not
>sure if anyone has seen this
> story before, its about how 2 teenagers made a
>compressor free air
> conditioner using peltier thermoelectric chips.
>I know they aer terribly
> inefficient compared to phase change cooling,
>but I think there is some
> potential there. I recently got 2 of these chips
>off ebay for around $16,
> just to play around with, I'll bring them to the
>next open garage or meet if
> anyone wants to check them out.
> link:
>http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/07/teens_invent_fr.php
>
>
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>From: jefoy at mindspring.com
>Subject: Re: [ausev] AusEV Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43
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