[ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.

michael mringer at austin.rr.com
Thu Aug 24 14:07:45 GMT 2006 

IF memory serves right (I got certified back in 86 and haven't gone
diving since)  they just fill them with an air compressor.  

Michael Ringer
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From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
Behalf Of tomsmail
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by Swampy.

Another idea is to pack a scuba tank with compressed air
that could be released for cooling.  I don't know yet what
it would take to have one recharged at home...but I've
thought about this as a method for both cooling as well as
an auxilary braking power source (sort of brake vacuum
booster in reverse).

Tom

> I've checked with A1 Imports (wrecking yard) used parts,
> and, they get hybrids in frequently.   The cost for an
> electric AC compressor is $300 plus tax.  Ira Copple
> himself has a Prius, and works on it himself,   High and
> low voltage systems,  transmission, and etc.  He has other
> hybrid parts which would be of high interest for the club
> as well.   He is very technically versed in how the parts
> work, and,  he gave me the name of another used parts
> supplier in Virginia  (Bills' Auto Parts at 1800 - 699 -
> 2002) if anyone feels adventuresome in considering
> feasibility.  (Check operational voltage, wattage, and
> displacements/fittings,  controls, safety switches and
> cycling switches in order to get "in the ball park" for
> feasibility.) Dan Petit.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jtp" <jtp at onr.com>
> To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
> <ausev at austinev.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester
> by Swampy.
>
>
> How about doing a price listing for and electric ac
> compressor from a wrecked vehicle so equipped.  Then,
> installing it with a "Smart variable orifice" valve which
> is self-regulating for the best cooling,  given any
> experimental system displacement.  Calibrating the best
> charge of 134a for it would be very easy with a
> computerized 134a charging/recovery station (which I
> have).  The bottom line is the cost of the electric AC
> compressor as are seen on many hybrids nowadays.
> Dan Petit.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Perry" <keithperry at austin.rr.com>
> To: "'AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion'"
> <ausev at austinev.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester
> by Swampy.
>
>
> Dry ice is solid CO2. It would fill the passenger area up
> with CO2, displacing air.
>  Keith
>
> "The unaware are unaware that they are unaware."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org
> [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On Behalf Of michael
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: eeyore at phototropia.org; 'AustinEV News Announcements
> and General Discussion'
> Subject: Re: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester
> by Swampy.
>
>
> Silly, question, why no use dry ice?  Or would that not
> last long enough?
>
> Michael Ringer
> Administrative Manager
> GCE, Inc
> 512-528-0908
> 512-528-9293 FAX
> Your Passport to education and employment
> Member of NACES
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org
> [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Robison Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester
> by Swampy.
>
> How did you deal with the condensation on the coil?   I
> tried this with a
> large ice chest full of icewater, a transmission oil
> cooler and a couple muffin fans, and a small 12V marine
> bilge pump, and not only was the cooling adequate for only
> a short time (until the ice melted, maybe 10 minutes as I
> recall) but the condensation was such that it made the
> setup almost unusable.  I kept a plastic bag underneath to
> protect my upholstery and carpet from the drips, and had a
> significant collection of water to
> (carefully) empty afterward.
>
> It was a hassle to get all the ice to the car,
> disappointing in the heat of summer (in a 4-door Honda
> Civic) and a hassle to clean up afterward. After a few
> attempts I considered the experiment a failure.
>
>   --chris
>
>
>
> On Wed, August 23, 2006 12:32 pm, Chris Cooper said:
> > These things are so easy and cheap to build. I have
> built two of them; one
> > large enough to cool my old '86 dodge van. I pumped ice
> water from the ice
> > chest through the heater core.
> >
> > You need (basically):
> > Ice chest
> > Smallest 12V bilge pump from Wal Mart
> > Some 1/2" through-wall barb connectors
> > 1/2" water hose
> > Heater core with 1/2" fittings
> > 12V fan attached to the heater core or use the heater
> core in the vehicle
> > Large and small pieces of ice
> > About 3" of water in the bottom of the ice chest
> >
> >
> >
> > C²
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org
> [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
> > Behalf Of Richard Slatin, MC/MFCT
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:19 AM
> > To: kevin.koym at enterpriseteaming.com; ausev at austinev.org
> > Subject: [ausev] !12-Volt Ice cooling with a Icester by
> Swampy. >
> > Hello Kevin,
> >
> > I live in Phoenix, AZ, where the summer heat tops 110F,
> > often.  I'm rebuilding the Bradley GT2 Electric, which
> is a 96v-based EV.  I, too,
>
> > and in search of the holy grail of EVs, a car that
> > handles the daily commute (40-55 miles per charge) and
> can keep me cool in the heat.  My
>
> > research--and searching--led me to the unit below.  I
> haven't purchased
> > it yet, but plan to have it for next summer's heat
> > season.  It draws relatively few amps.  You may want to
> > have your club members look it over, and I'd welcome
> their input. >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard in Phoenix
> >
> >
> > http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html
> >
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