[ausev] E-bus for $500

Marc Kohler mkohler at austin.rr.com
Wed Jul 5 18:57:54 GMT 2006


Like I said, I our used 1kWh/mile.
We used 48 T-145s on our bus, good for over 36 kWh or 35 miles.

I think this bus can only carry 20 (maybe 24) batteries tops.

Assuming it only uses 500-750 Wh/mile, using T-105s would give it 11-13kWh, 
or 15-25 mile range.  Using T-125s would bump that up another 20% or so.

Perhaps with an onboard generator (on the roof?), the range could be 
stretched.
Again, it goes back to what is the eventual purpose going to be?

Marc

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Robison" <eeyore at phototropia.org>
To: "AustinEV announcements list" <ausev at austinev.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ausev] E-bus for $500


> Of course, there's always the rolling road sign or mobile metalshop ideas,
> but the problem is that if we want it to be handy and useful, we have to
> have somewhere to park it that doesn't take an hour to reach.  And that
> suggests an ongoing storage cost.
>
>
> Not that this bus would likely be the same, but do you remember the useful
> range of the DAX bus?
>
>  --chris
>
>
>
> On Wed, July 5, 2006 1:18 pm, Marc Kohler said:
>> We had a bus very similar to this at DAX.
>> Duel 9" motors using a Gates Supercharger belt to couple both motors
>> directly to the drive axle.  This limits the speed to about 25-30 mph.
>>
>> I agree with Farver that we need to figure out an end result first.  I
>> think
>> Nordscog originally sold them to universities, zoos, airports, parks, etc
>> where shuttling people around a closed environment was ideal.
>>
>> It would need to be rewired, not only to fix the "fast leak" but also to
>> have some sort of new schematics so that others can trouble shoot and fix
>> problems in the future.  That's what we had to do to the DAX bus.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, our bus (slightly longer) used about 1kwh/mile
>> using flooded 6V batteries (48 total).  We had power steering and brakes
>> but
>> no A/C, only fans for the passengers.
>>
>> Marc Kohler
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Farver" <mfarver at mindbent.org>
>> To: "AustinEV announcements list" <ausev at austinev.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ausev] E-bus for $500
>>
>>
>>> It would be a fun toy but what would we do with it once it was working?
>>>
>>> Mission is all the way down by the border, 5 hours or so from Austin. It
>>> would be a long haul to bring it back here. Wonder how much that thing
>>> weighs without the batteries in it.
>>>
>>> Anyone want to guess its worth? I'd be willing to put in a bid for $1000
>>> if anyone can give me an idea on what we can use it for. It might be fun
>>> parade/event vehicle for things like the various Marathons. The laws are
>>> a bit varied, but the driver might need a CDL to carry any passengers
>>> (paying or not)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Robison wrote:
>>>
>>>>I sent a response yesterday, offering $250.  It never made it to the
>>>>list...   Aaron?
>>>>
>>>>I doubt this auction will finish for under $1000, but maybe this site
>>>>isn't as popular as I'm thinking...
>>>>
>>>>  --chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, July 5, 2006 10:58 am, Daniel J. Stewart said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Me too.  $350 left!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Danny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  -------Original Message-------
>>>>>From: Mark Kapner
>>>>>Subject: Re: [ausev] E-bus for $500
>>>>>Sent: 04 Jul '06 16:14
>>>>>
>>>>>If y'all are up for it, I'll put in my $75 to get the bus. Weonly need
>>>>>$425
>>>>>more.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark Kapner
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Chris Robison" <[LINK:
>>>>>https://mbox.cortechs.us/compose.php?to=eeyore@phototropia.org]
>>>>>eeyore at phototropia.org>
>>>>>To: "AustinEV announcements list" <[LINK:
>>>>>https://mbox.cortechs.us/compose.php?to=ausev@austinev.org]
>>>>>ausev at austinev.org>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:20 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [ausev] E-bus for $500
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh -- a little misleading. $500 now, but most likely a lot more at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>end of the auction.  Still, although I'm not usually one to be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>interested
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>in stuff like this, I have to say this one looks to be in very good
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>shape.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder what you could turn something like this into, if not just
>>>>>>restoring it as a bus ... ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I wonder how much it would cost to drag the thing here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, July 4, 2006 1:34 pm, Marc Kohler said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Might be a good project for the Austin EV group?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>[LINK:
>>>>>http://www.lonestaronline.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=835474235]
>>>>>http://www.lonestaronline.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=835474235
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