[ausev] [Ausev] Hymotion

[Aaron Choate]

Hey Danny,

That's what I was wondering.

1)  I had misremembered what I had read about the product before.  From the
site, it is obvious that they are targeting the plugin hybrid stuff,

and

2) as you said, it is looking like an especially effective marketing machine
at the moment with few production units to show..

Thanks,

Aaron

On 3/1/06, Daniel J. Stewart <dstewart at cortechs.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, Aaron - the Hymotion kit does
> allow you to plug in.  In fact, it is an add-on battery, and not a
> replacement.  One "telling" thing to me is that at the auto show their Prius
> was a "working demonstrator" while the Escape was a "mockup".  I wonder if
> they should have gotten some orange crepe paper and mocked up the raging
> lithium fire we can expect after the thermal runaway kicks in, since they do
> not have the patented Valence Saphion technology ;-).  But seriously folks,
> it is suspicious when you say you are filling fleet orders, but can't scrape
> one up for your auto show debut.  They also go out of their way to explain
> how "no factory parts will be replaced or removed" but do not explain how
> they convince the Escape's engine managment computer to stay in "EV mode".
>
> Hymotion's headquarters is in Toronto, but they say they have an office in
> Boston and 5 "subcontractor facilities" in North America (and I'll bet these
> people actually include Canada and Mexico when they say North America) so if
> one is in Houston, that's pretty good.
>
> Rock on,
> Danny
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Marc Kohler <mkohler at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ausev] Plug In Partners Press Conference
> Sent: 01 Mar '06 17:55
>
> check out [LINK: http://www.hymotion.com] www.hymotion.com
>
>
> "local" reseller/installer for Texas is somewhere in Houston
>
>
> They are only taking orders for fleet purchases at this time.
>
>
> 5kWh Li-ion battery kit is $9500 for orders over 100.
>
>
> Kohler
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> FROM:   [LINK: mailto:achoate at gmail.com] Aaron Choate
>
> TO: [LINK: mailto:ausev at austinev.org] AustinEV announcements list
>
> SENT: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:49   PM
>
> SUBJECT: Re: [Ausev] Plug In Partners   Press Conference
>
>
> Hey Daniel,
>
> Can you tell us more about the Hymotion   kit?  Everything we have heard
> from the Cal Cars folk and the California   EAA people seems to be
> implying that that they are the only guys working on   extending the EV
> only range of vehicles and producing a kit.  Yet, here   is a Canadian
> company showing a finished product...  Is it that the   Hymotion kit
> doesn't allow the vehicle to be plugged in?  Is it a   shipping product?
> When we went to their site the other day, they   mentioned that we could
> contact our local reseller????  Who would that   be?
>
> Did you get any more informatinon about   that?
>
> Cya,
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On 3/1/06, DANIEL J.   STEWART <[LINK: mailto:dstewart at cortechs.com]
> dstewart at cortechs.com>  wrote:  Howdy   y'all,
>
> I am testing the new mailing list (thanks, Aaron!) with a   reminder for
> anyone who hasn't seen the Plug In Partners campaign kickoff   (sponsored
> by Ausin Energy back on 24 Jan) to check out the webcast   available from
> their home page [LINK: http://www.pluginpartners.org]
> http://www.pluginpartners.org
>
> The   press conference was certainly effective at creating a "buzz".  I
> don't know how well it communicated the goal "to demonstrate to automakers
> that a market for flexible-fuel Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles exists
> today" - it came off more like "what is a PHEV, and why is it so great?"
> but   maybe that is the essential first message before trying to establish
> the   number of potential buyers.
>
> I believe the Plug In Partners will end   up UNDERestimating the market,
> since they are asking for people to "pledge   to strongly consider
> purchasing" a vehicle they haven't even   seen.  I wonder how many people
> in 1971 would have still said they   wanted an "American made small car"
> if they had known it would be a Pinto,   Chevette, or Pacer.
>
> Interestingly, two days after the press   conference I stumbled apon the
> Ford Escape Flex-Fuel Hybrid at the D.C. Auto   Show.  It was listed as a
> concept, but it certainly seemed   produceable since Ford already offers
> an E85 compatible engine option on the   Taurus, Ranger, and Explorer.
> More recently, Hymotion showed   their plug-in upgrade kit for the Escape
> Hybrid at the Canadian   International Auto Show (in Toronto,   eh).
> Interesting!
>
> Danny
>
>
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