[ausev] EV Response to Mr. Foy

[Ian Ward]

Dan,

Personally, I don't doubt your assertions for a second and have had
irresolvable trouble with the programmable fuel injection system on my Honda
as my own personal proof.  My point was, as is I believe everyone else that
has responded, that there hasn't been an opportunity to gather a lot of
evidence to support the claim that EVs are any better than ICEs in this
regard.

Cheers,
ian

-----Original Message-----
From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
Behalf Of jtp
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:07 PM
To: jefoy at mindspring.com; AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
Subject: Re: [ausev] EV Response to Mr. Foy

Dear Mr. Foy,
 Please reserve your judgement as to absurdity of these failures which
remain hidden.  What one doesn't know most certainly does hurt you and
everyone else.
  By virtue that electronics may be "fail safe" initially does not mean that
they are acceptable as to financial risk in the purchase of  any vehicle
which has this hidden damage, as frequently revealed in a thorough purchase
scan.
 One out of Three vehicles THOROUGHLY scanned which are for sale do not get
clearance for purchase.
  Damages costs are greatly compounded when one of these must be addressed,
and the level of expertise as currently available nationally in addressing
538,000 different systemic sets of costs is what is absurd.
(Have all your "check engine" faults been corrected cheaply and correctly
the first time or does one buy or lease a new vehicle every 3 years?)   Why
does anyone think that Toyota has increased its sales a whopping 25% last
month?     Overall Quality.
I do not see Toyota electronics or Honda electronics as of yet, damaged in
these ways.
The market is the brutal thing, and, if that's not our lesson, then for deaf
ears there are leaner times ahead.  We will all see and continue to see what
the market votes upon with their dollars.  What is out there already will
not change.  If a customer of mine is frustrated about something,  I
respectfully listen and search as hard as efficiently possible for solid
answers.  If any industry member does not allow itself to feel the financial
pain of its customers at the Board Room Level and Mid Management Levels,
then they at least ought to recognize and admit that whatever of theirs is
out there, is and was the best that they/we could possibly have done in the
past at that time, then work STRENOUSLY to perform better in the future, and
pray that they give you and me a second chance.
Thank you for your email, but you do not understand how frustrated most
hard-working technicians are by the absurdity of the technical-excessiveness
with which 18 agencies dictate that an automobile must be designed.  Walk a
mile in a technicians' shoes, and I sincerely believe you may soften your
response.  But it is important to me that I know your opinion as well, as I
am sure that your interests are working as hard and as dilligently as are
these technicians in 105 degree service bays .
  You see at least  several or dozens of different kinds of electronics
designs each year for serval or dozens of different applications. Out in the
field, it is very different.
A technician has to potentially deal with any of over 538,000 different
possible electonic designs on any given day, highly-compromized
(technically-messed-up) with inadequate or improper servicing! This massive
(and daily)   honest-frustration vastly overwhelms anything in disagreement
with it. (You may laugh at me, but I have visited over 320 shops here in the
Austin area, and I personally see most (nearly a thousand now) technicians
having "the patience of Jobe", and yes, I see most of them as heroes for the
complexities of those 538,000 different systems they are faced with).
  They would be overwhelmingly on my side of the discussion if they were
able to read this, and I do everything in my power to help them in any way I
can.  I am only one person, but I must incorporate yours (and any other
firms') protest as best that I possibly can if you will let me.
 If your interests make computer/electronics for Toyota and Honda, and all
other manufacturers which over the long run are resilient, then I
congratulate you, commend your interests, and hope these standards can be
adopted and shared ASAP.
 Do you see all those children scooting around on those
electrically-propelled scooters and bicycles?  That is our hint. They will
not want (nor be able to afford for that matter) well-designed electronics
placed in high risk places as frequently as it turns out, nor will they
remain uneducated when mom and dad are in dire stress when hidden
electronics damages stop an emissions inspection. They will live closer to
home and even closer to thier jobs and use those electric scooters if they
have to. (A battery powered skateboad well-made in America with well-made
American batteries goes 12 miles on a charge at 22 mph, and costs about 200
bucks, and easily fits in a locker at work). Battery drive is where much of
it is  going, even without concerns for the environment.
(Indeed, the next generation may be the ones to help provide National
Security in reducing petroleum usage at least in some part).
   With regard to ALL jobs relating to electronics-related repairs, those
whom are EAGER to LEARN and are DEDICATED (and with enough "service bay
time") to doing their jobs  CORRECTLY/THOROUGHLY/RELENTLESSLY  are the ones
whom will KEEP or GET those jobs, in vehiclular service especially.
The customer is voting every second.

Thank you for your comment, for, without it, the situation could not have
become clarified additionally.


Dan Petit.

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