[ausev] Series hybrids

Roy Holder roy at holder3.com
Mon Dec 3 21:31:17 GMT 2007


To keep the emissions low I was looking at DC marine diesel generators.
They typically have a longer run life and reliability, and in the case of
the Ossa, are lighter. 
The Ossa have capacities of 6, 13.5, 25, 50, 100, 150 and 200kW.
13.5 and 25kw  were the 2 sizes I was interested in.
I called and talked to an engineer and talked about the 25kw system.  It's
less than 600 lbs and it consumed 1.3 gallons per hour at full load.  They
could tweak the output voltage to match need with very little loss of
efficiency.  It would run well on biodiesel and they had supposedly tested
with biodiesel a lot, and is was VERY low emissions.
The down side is they cost more. I think they said a generator was about
$10,000

http://www.ossapowerlite.com/index.htm
http://polarpowerinc.com/products/generators/index.htm



At 09:05 AM 10/23/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, October 21, 2007 10:16 pm, John Penry at Texrocks wrote:
>> MessageI went by the Maker Faire section for EV's on Saturday and snapped
>> a few photos.
>> Some of the AustinEV folks had cars displayed there.
>> I talked to some great folks.  I posted my snapshots at:
>> http://www.texrocks.com/MakerFaire.html
>
>Thanks for the pics, John!
>
>>
>>
>> My plan is to build a Serial Hybrid Pickup.  Does anyone know if this has
>> been attempted in the past?
>
>The most frequently discussed method of achieving a serial hybrid is to
>make a "generator trailer". This allows you to operate the vehicle as a
>pure battery-powered EV (BEV) for usual driving (commuting) and then
>attach the trailer for longer drives. While I've seen this done a few
>times, but the only example I can think of that is practical and clean is
>AC Propulsion's "Long Ranger" trailer, based on a 2-cylinder motorcycle
>engine:
>
>http://www.madkatz.com/acpropulsion/longRanger.html (from old archive)
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/reports/Low_Emiss_Range_Ext.pdf
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/vehicles/images/hybrid%20trailer_JPG.jpg
>http://www.acpropulsion.com/vehicles/images/red%20long%20ranger%203_jpg.jpg
>
>AC Propulsion used to sell these as a custom-ordered product, but they
>seem to have stopped production (I'm not sure if they ever sold any).
>
>What most people think of when they consider a "generator trailer" is a
>light duty residential or commercial backup generator (such as you might
>find at a big-box store) mounted to a small trailer from Harbor Freight,
>etc. The problem with this approach, or mounting such a generator in the
>bed of an EV pickup truck, is emissions. These small generators are far
>dirtier than any car sold today, including the generators that are
>currently permitted for sale in California. They do not have a catalytic
>converter like an automobile engine, and emissions laws for small gas
>engines are not as strict as those for automobiles.
>
>The better way might be to use a motorcycle or small car engine (e.g.
>early Geo Metro 3-cylinder) and retain the existing emissions controls,
>and attach a large generator head to it. Northern Tool used to sell a 20kw
>generator head, but they appear to have removed it from their catalog. The
>result would likely be larger than you'd want to put in the bed.
>
>Then there's the microturbine idea, as produced by a company called
>Capstone for series hybrid buses. Every once in a while you find one of
>these units on eBay.
>
>
>  --chris
>
>
>
>
>>
>> John Penry
>> Seguin, Texas
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