[ausev] hi im a newbie here with a question(s) for mark farver....

nick blackhall kvuenick at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 02:58:28 GMT 2007


first thanks for the reply, i do know a little about fabricating, but i dont
have any special source for materials.  I would defer things that need to be
precice to the appropriate people. However, i am interested in doing as much
of the work myself, since i believe that is half the fun.  you mention that
many evs, are sold for less than the sum of their parts. does that mean that
any kind of resale value goes away?  it is unlikely that i would sell the
truck, but in the event that i did, i would certainly atleast like to get mu
money back out of it.   I actually have all kinds of questions, but i dont
want to inundate you with stuff that i could probably look up myself. Again,
thanks for getting back to me.

p.s. any idea when the open garage might be, im very interested in attending
and checking everything out.

Nick


On 2/19/07, Mark Farver <mfarver at mindbent.org> wrote:
>
> nick blackhall wrote:
> > Hey, thanks for getting back to me so quickly....
> >
> > You are completely correct in that i am most likely over looking
> > certain steps and or equipment that i would need.  To tell the truth,
> > i have yet to see a conversion done on a pickup like mine (most likely
> > because its a dumb car to convert...) but i greatly appreciate the
> > feedback.  I dont know what the curb weight is at this moment.
> > Honestly i have never regarded it as a heavy vehicle seeing that i
> > have been able to push it by myself.  Anyway, im still looking into
> > all this stuff and i hope to hear from you guys soon.   Thanks again.
> > Nick
>
> Vehicles built in the early 70's and previous often were quite light by
> todays standards.  (While fuel economy wasn't much of an issue, they
> also didn't use a lot of metal ensuring passenger safety) Imports tended
> to be lighter than domestics.
>
> It may be that your pickup has a weight similar to a modern car, in that
> case you might get an acceptable range from it.  Aerodynamics will limit
> your range somewhat at higher speeds, most older vehicles were built
> with very little regard for aero losses.
>
> I agree with Chris, it is possible to build a conversion for as little
> as $8000, but a good quality conversion will be closer to $10,000 for
> the major parts, and the "little things" like custom fabrication,
> fasteners and the like can really add up.  I would budget $15000, and
> expect the cost to be somewhat less.
>
> The more fabrication skills you have the lower the cost will be, if you
> can build your own adapter plate ($750 or so) or battery boxes
> ($500-1000 from a vendor like Custom Sheetmetal on Lamar).  People who
> like to fabricate things also usually have access to more affordable raw
> materials from their suppliers, and have extensive parts and junk bins.
> Things like rivets cost a penny when you buy thousands, but can cost
> several dollars if you buy from Home Depot.  (Best source for fasteners
> is usually Austin Bolt, on Rutland)
>
> Another place to shave a few dollars is by purchasing a used EV.  Often
> they are sold for less than the combined value of all of their parts.  I
> believe both Mark Barr and Erik purchased used parts from another EV,
> and transplanted them into their conversions at a savings.  Check online
> sites like the EV trading post.
>
> Mark
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