[ausev] Open Garage & CO2+Electricity Generation (was hi im a newbie)

[jefoy at mindspring.com]

The sad point is that even though it is easier to control centralized emissions (power plant), it isn't being done. There are several lignite fired power plants in Texas, operating without the benefit of modern emission control because they have been grandfathered in. 

Another sad point is that for the duration of the conversion project, most people continue to rely on some type of ICE vehicle while they finish the conversion. I'll wave my hand at falling in to that category as my conversion project languishes in the garage. 

And last, for many people, the stated need can not be reasonably met with what is currently available in EV technology. If the combination of normal payload and required range can not be met, that person will continue to rely more heavily on an ICE vehicle. If the cost of a conversion precludes the purchase of a more efficient ICE or hybrid, there is again the possibility of a net loss.  

A lot of things are not ideal in the above scenarios but common sense says they are likely.

Jack 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Carey King <careyking1 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 20, 2007 11:58 PM
>To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion <ausev at austinev.org>
>Subject: Re: [ausev] Open Garage & CO2+Electricity Generation (was hi im	a newbie)
>
>We could let Mark Kapner correct us on this (if he were still on the 
>list), but as far as Austin Energy goes, I think the coal and nuclear 
>are still running at night, with the coal throttled back (less 
>efficient) as determined by the quantity of wind power and demand. In 
>conversations with him, and in looking at the GREET model of Argonne 
>Natl. labs (which does exactly this calculation for the entire energy 
>chain for fueling cars and can be downloaded for free), there are 
>emissions benefits. The main thing is that emissions are easier to 
>control at larger central plants and in the end less expensive.
>
>For the most glorified Excel spreadsheet I've ever seen, and to do your 
>own calculations for emissions for fueling cars in various ways, see: 
>http://www.transportation.anl.gov/software/GREET/
>
>This link has documents with regard to various studies done in this area:
>http://www.transportation.anl.gov/software/GREET/publications.html
>
>carey
>
>rah at h-consulting.com wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>I'm planning an open garage on Sunday 2/25 from 1 to 5 PM.  My address 
>>is posted on my blog: http://ezehicle.com/archives/100.  Please RSVP by 
>>commenting on the bloc.
>>
>>If you're looking for an intro to EV conversions, my conversion is 
>>fairly generic.  I have an "off the shelf" DC system with a goal of 
>>"get it on the road."
>>
>>I also want to feed the flames on this EV long tail pipe debate.  The 
>>long tail pipe theory that you are just moving the pollution is wrong 
>>locally because Austin's night time power is provided by windmills.
>>
>>Rob
>>RAVolt.com & EValbum 995
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