[ausev] EV Calculator Script
Carey King
careyking1 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 5 14:18:57 GMT 2007
Nick,
I think you're on track by using power available in the batteries to
figure out torque/speed limitations in the EV. A good example would be 8
of 12V batteries vs. 12 of 8V batteries, and does each set allow for the
same total series voltage and current capabilities (i.e. which one is
more limiting)? I don't know influential the difference would be.
Good work on what you have. I like your site. My recommendation would be
(albeit somewhat involved) some basic graphing to show people results of
their inputs. I suppose this might involve some Java programming or
something (which I can't claim to know at the moment). If the Y-axis
were a few basic variables (battery energy storage (V, I), cumulative
distance traveled) and the X-axis were one of time or distance.
carey
Nick Viera wrote:
>Hi Mark and all,
>
>Mark Hastings wrote:
>
>
>>There is a section on Uves calculator where it lists the max speed in
>>each gear and whether it is RPM or voltage limited.
>>
>>
>
>Right, I did see that. Unfortunately that section fails to list the most
>important limiter of max. speed: available battery power. For example,
>Uve's calculator tells me that I can go 77mph max. in 3rd gear with
>battery *voltage* being the limiting factor. I know from real life that
>this is not true; and that my max. speed is actually around 64mph with
>battery *power* being the limiting factor (unfortunately) :-/
>
>My EV-RATS script calculates and shows an EV's top speed not by doing
>simple gearing-RPM calcs but by taking the maximum available power from
>the battery pack and back solving for how fast you can travel
>(regardless of gear), still having enough available power to overcome
>all sources of drag (aero drag, rolling resistance, etc.). I think this
>makes it more practical and useable. Comments?
>
>
>
>>The further sections where it shows 1st gear at 90mph and shows
>>speed/draw/etc are confusing but if they were somewhat accurate it
>>would be useful. If I was to make one easy change to those
>>1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th gear section where it shows speed/draw/etc at
>>each speed it would be to put N/A in all the speeds that weren't
>>available in that gear.
>>
>>
>
>Agreed! That's the minimum that should be done to make Uve's
>calculations more applicable to a given vehicle.
>
>
>
>>I tried the new calculator and it showed my S-15 pickup getting
>>18miles. Which is a little low unless it is winter but I probably
>>don't have all the figures properly set for the vehicle.
>>
>>
>
>Hmmm... okay. All the feedback I've gotten so far indicates that this is
>the case (EV-RATS being overly pessimistic about range). I'm trying to
>figure out if this is due to calculation error(s), or if user's aren't
>putting in accurate variables for their EV's, or ?? Could you give me
>an idea of how far off its range calculations are for your vehicle and
>what Cd, Coefficients of drag and rolling resistance your using?
>
>
>
>>That was another nice feature of Uves calc where it had templates for
>>some base vehicles. Perhaps including some links to sources where one
>>could easily find that information would be better then templates.
>>
>>
>
>I'd love to do this, but it seems like a really really laborious task
>given all the different types of components and vehicles out there. Not
>to mention that it would be hard to guarantee the variables (esp. for
>batteries) wouldn't change and then the template(s) be incorrect at a
>later date. Maybe a good compromise would be to make it possible for
>users to upload their numbers to files that EV-RATS can load, e.g.
>creating a database of "user submitted templates" for the calculator?
>
>Thanks for the input!
>
>
>
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