[ausev] Some thoughts about ROI

[Chris Frandsen]

Well said, Michael!
Now the carbon cap and trade system would put a price on the global  
warming component.
I do not know what that would actually mean at the residential level  
but it might give us a number. The 3KW system I installed in April has  
already saved over 3200 lbs of Co2 according to the SunnyBoy Inverter.

Chris Frandsen
Austin, TX
On Aug 8, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Michael Bonard wrote:

> John,
>
> If you look at ROI in everything you buy, you are ABSOLUTELY right if
> you consider your _personal_ interest for the _short term_.
>
> However, we have to think about the future, and if we do not take
> drastic measures now, we, as well as our children and grandchildren,
> will be the victims of our present behavior.
>
> If you have children, you have certainly invested large sums of  
> money in
> their education: $100,000 per child is currently the lowest cost I can
> find. We do that for their well being in the future. Were is the ROI  
> there?
>
> Why not considering investments in energy independence and for the  
> fight
> against global warming _as an investment for our children,  
> grandchildren
> and future generations_? We do not need to look at the ROI here, we
> cannot even define it!!
>
> For me, any other view is a complete contradiction: if I am willing to
> pay for my children education to make sure that they have a better
> chance of living a happy life and, at the same time, if I refuse to
> invest in energy independence because of ROI, I am preparing for  
> them a
> future that will be terrible. This does not make sense!
>
> On the moral side, I find that ignoring the future generations is
> horribly selfish.
>
> By the way, what is the ROI of buying a $75,000 sports car? ROI is an
> invention of bean counters, and ROI has no consideration for human  
> life.
> ROI is a tool for businesses and corporations, not for every day's
> personal life!
>
> We should think about the consequences of our actions, not only for
> ourselves, but for the rest of the society and for the future. We need
> to open our mind and grasp the big picture!
>
>
> Michael Bonard
> Washington DC
>
> By the way, ROI means "king" in French. We live in the country where  
> ROI
> is king!
>
>
>
> John Penry at TransTexasTrucks wrote:
>> I object to the "green tax" that companies charge.
>> I buy Folgers by the pound, not Starbucks by the cup.  I look for  
>> value.
>> I object to calling it "Windtricity" when it is the same  
>> electricity my
>> neighbor gets, but I have to pay more.
>> Now if they called it a "rate lock", I would buy it.
>> So why should I buy it if it costs more?
>> Is it up to me as a consumer, or is it up to our elected officials?
>> These types of questions could go on forever, but the fact is, I DO  
>> look at
>> ROI in everything I buy.
>>