[ausev] 40 hp bus +

[Gil Dawson]

On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:59 A, Jim Watson wrote:
> It would be easier in my opinion to fuel my own vehicle in my own  
> garage instead of having to drive somewhere to fuel it.

Many people have no garage.  EVs are useless for people who park in a  
different spot on the street each night.  Without filling stations,  
they have no way to charge.   A large segment of our population might  
have gotten the impression that EVs are solely for rich people, those  
who can afford a garage.  Maybe that's what Lionel was thinking about  
when he highlighted infrastructure.

On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:00 A, Ken Thomas wrote:
> The average oil refinery burns 8 to 12 KWH of electricity per  
> gallon of
> gasoline produced. A Phoenix Motor Cars SUV uses about 0.35 KWH per
> mile.

Let's do the math:
To go 30 miles, a gas car uses, say, one gallon of gas, which needed  
8 to 10 Kwh .
To go that same 30 miles, a Phoenix  SUV would require only 30 x 0.35  
= 10.5 Kwh.
This doesn't look right, does it?

On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:28 A, Jim Watson wrote:
> I worry that corporations have become too strong for the government  
> in this nation.

Amen.  Has everyone seen the movie named, "The Corporation"?  It  
explains it all for you.

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:29 A, Jim Watson wrote:
> As much as I hate using gas in a conversion it still seems like an  
> interesting idea for a big truck.

For really big trucks on the interstate highways, I have not been  
able to imagine any primary energy source besides petroleum.  It'll  
take a huge leap in battery technology to power an 18-wheeled  
articulated lorry full of stuff between cities.

Or airplanes.  Can you imagine getting 300 people from NYC to LA in  
five hours on batteries?

On the other hand, I did drive an 80-mile-range EV1 from LA to Las  
Vegas and back.  Took all day and part of the next with four charging  
stops each way (thank you again, Bill, Greg and KOA), but we got  
there.  Maybe this could be a model for transportation in the long term.

--Gil
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