[ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator

[John Penry at TransTexasTrucks]

Almost.
We used to have a saying in software.
Q. What's the difference between a software salesman and a used car salesman?
A.  The used car salesman knows he is lying.

The YouTube videos show a tank of water, and it fizzes like a 7-up when the juice is applied.  But that is not going to produce near enough Hydrogen gas with only 12 volts.  Hyrdoxy torches use 10,000 volts to create their gas, and it takes a while, from what I have read.  

These scams are just aided by journalists who don't check with knowledgeable people before airing these stories.

P.T. Barnum would be proud.

John
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Clendon Gibson 
  To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion 
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator


  I don't know how much that much hydrogen would help or if the benefit would be worthwhile. 

  As I said, if done properly, this could be of benefit. If all you get is a balloon full every 25 minutes and if that much isn't enough to significantly affect the MPG, then I would suggest it has not been done properly. 

  That is the essence of the scam. Not that the idea is bad, but that the conman has not bothered to do it well enough to justify it as an improvement. 

  The point I am trying to make is that this con is the difference between good engineering and bad engineering, not good science and bad science. 



  ----- Original Message ----
  From: John Penry at TransTexasTrucks <jpenry at transtexastrucks.com>
  To: Clendon Gibson <bsandyman at yahoo.com>; AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion <ausev at austinev.org>
  Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 9:25:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator


  The Octane rating of Hydrogen is about 50.  How does a balloon full of Hydrogen every 25 minutes improve mileage?

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Clendon Gibson 
    To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion 
    Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator


    It sounds to me like what the guy is saying is that the offers to do this are scams. They claim they are revolutionary and they are realling touting a princible that had been known and understood for quite some time.

    There is the additional safety concern of having quantaties of oxygen or hydrogen somewhere. 

    However hydrogen or oxygen would boost the power of the ICE using gasloline and if done properly could lead to greater fuel efficiency. One has to wonder how a car burning hydrogen and oxygen only would perform. 

    Now whether such thing would lower your fuel bills is something else entirely. 



    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Michael <mringer at austin.rr.com>
    To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion <ausev at austinev.org>
    Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 12:18:23 AM
    Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator


    If you believe this guy it’s a complete scam

    http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/



    From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto: http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/ausev-bounces@austinev.org] On Behalf Of John Penry at TransTexasTrucks
    Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:11 PM
    To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
    Cc: The Alamo City Electric Auto Association's Discussion List
    Subject: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator



    Notice how the URL never changes as you click different videos.  My mistake.

    http://www.ksat.com/video/16787078/index.html



    Cambridge says they sold 10,000 of these at $1500 each.

    I would never let greed allow me to take advantage of people this way.  

    Even for 10 million bucks.





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    But if I lose this race, we all become winners.




     



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