From loopcat at yahoo.com  Fri May  9 14:10:32 2008
From: loopcat at yahoo.com (loopcat)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ausev] GE-12" on Ebay
Message-ID: <583232.62151.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Folks,
 Here is an interesting motor. At 364lbs it might work
well in a Hummer! I emailed the seller about other
specs, epspecially the RPM's. No word yet.
Take a peek..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=380024991685&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=025
All the Best, John in SA


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From evdude at narwani.org  Fri May  9 15:58:49 2008
From: evdude at narwani.org (Neil)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:58:49 -0700
Subject: [ausev] The case for electric
Message-ID: <20080509085849.aa852ca0b9408a18628702332a621962.774bb5a394.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Hi all,

In the past (going back a year to a few years), I've seen various cost comparisons making the case for EVs vs. traditional ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles.  From those at that time, it was evident that EVs are more costly up front, but (based on my average expected usage) would break even in a 3-4 years.  Diesels seemed like a better alternative at the time, but due to limited models available, I still drive gasoline-based vehicles.  And I work from home anyway.

Now, with gasoline prices ascending rapidly, I'm wondering if any of you have a more up-to-date comparison/analysis for EV's vs. ICEs.  I expect initial costs to be higher still, but I'm expecting the break-even point would be much sooner.  I am just not intimately familiar with the true costs to build/own EV's so that I can compare these easily.  Any info on this available anywhere?

Cheers,
-Neil.


From blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org  Fri May  9 19:56:05 2008
From: blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org (Brian Lasseter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:56:05 -0500
Subject: [ausev] The case for electric
In-Reply-To: <20080509085849.aa852ca0b9408a18628702332a621962.774bb5a394.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20080509085849.aa852ca0b9408a18628702332a621962.774bb5a394.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <2b3d5a440805091256v2c819efcteac13e9f5cb9561d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Neil <evdude at narwani.org> wrote:
>   Any info on this available anywhere?

Wikipedia has a fair cost breakdown...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#Ownership_costs


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From achoate at gmail.com  Sat May 10 01:05:21 2008
From: achoate at gmail.com (Aaron Choate)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:05:21 -0500
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
Message-ID: <8fa91bfa0805091805t48e3f261q12ceac29224ad546@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion
off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a
completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV
uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.

If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested
to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.

Cheers,

Aaron Choate
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From bytedawg at bytetamer.com  Sat May 10 02:04:13 2008
From: bytedawg at bytetamer.com (m. edmund howse)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 21:04:13 -0500
Subject: [ausev] GE-12" on Ebay
In-Reply-To: <583232.62151.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <583232.62151.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4825029D.2040301@bytetamer.com>

Hello,

Here's another motor posssibly would be a good small car project motor.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Advanced-DC-Motor-7-BG5-4001-72-Volt-EV-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ150245367869QQihZ005QQcategoryZ26226QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

marv


loopcat wrote:

>Hey Folks,
> Here is an interesting motor. At 364lbs it might work
>well in a Hummer! I emailed the seller about other
>specs, epspecially the RPM's. No word yet.
>Take a peek..
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=380024991685&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=025
>All the Best, John in SA
>
>
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From aztexan45 at hotmail.com  Sat May 10 03:25:19 2008
From: aztexan45 at hotmail.com (mark witt)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:25:19 +0000
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
In-Reply-To: <8fa91bfa0805091805t48e3f261q12ceac29224ad546@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8fa91bfa0805091805t48e3f261q12ceac29224ad546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W28410EC10E3DCE046F6618B3D20@phx.gbl>


Here's the text of a story I found. Mark W.



Mixed reaction to rising gas prices in Austin


09:24 PM CDT on Friday, May 9, 2008


By SHELTON GREEN
KVUE News


Climbing gas prices have one sect of our community lamenting the phenomenon and another singing its praises.


Record breaking gas prices have many local cab drivers changing the way they do business. For example, the cabbies parked in front of the downtown Hilton say on any given Friday afternoon you could usually find them driving around looking for fares. But soaring gas prices are now forcing them to park and wait for passengers to come to them.


Daniel Ogwuu, an Austin cab driver for eight-years sat with his engine off meaning he had no air-conditioning in 96-degree temperatures.


"By sitting down this way you have to spend more hours.  Instead of finishing a 12-hour shift you still have to stay about two or three more hours to achieve your goals.


Across town, Brian Lasseter, an IBM engineer is not phased by the rising gas costs. That's because the member of Austin E.V., E.V. standing for electric vehicles, just completed revamping a 2002 Saturn into a fully, efficient electric car.


"We hear people talking about dependence on foreign oil like it's something you can't do something about and we looked around and said sure we can do something about it" says Lasseter.


The engineer spent $20,000 revamping the Saturn, a car which can get up to 100-miles an hour and run for 40 to 50-miles without being charged.


Lasseter says the non-profit group Austin E.V. has been getting more and more inquiries from people who want to know more about building their own electric vehicles.



________________________________

Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:05:21 -0500
From: achoate at gmail.com
To: ausev at austinev.org
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news

Hello all,

Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.

If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.

Cheers,

Aaron Choate

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From rob at zehicle.com  Sat May 10 03:28:28 2008
From: rob at zehicle.com (Rob		)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:28:28 -0500
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
In-Reply-To: <8fa91bfa0805091805t48e3f261q12ceac29224ad546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0f3501c8b24d$e9caff40$6401a8c0@MediaRob>

Very nice!  Good job Brian :)

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Behalf Of Aaron Choate
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:05 PM
To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news


Hello all,

Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion
off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a
completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV
uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.  

If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested
to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.

Cheers,

Aaron Choate


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From rob at zehicle.com  Sat May 10 04:19:43 2008
From: rob at zehicle.com (Rob		)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 23:19:43 -0500
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W28410EC10E3DCE046F6618B3D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0f5b01c8b255$12f17f00$6401a8c0@MediaRob>

http://www.youtube.com/v/Cxt5eG-uRXE


-----Original Message-----
From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
Behalf Of mark witt
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:25 PM
To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
Subject: Re: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news



Here's the text of a story I found. Mark W.



Mixed reaction to rising gas prices in Austin


09:24 PM CDT on Friday, May 9, 2008


By SHELTON GREEN
KVUE News


Climbing gas prices have one sect of our community lamenting the phenomenon
and another singing its praises.


Record breaking gas prices have many local cab drivers changing the way they
do business. For example, the cabbies parked in front of the downtown Hilton
say on any given Friday afternoon you could usually find them driving around
looking for fares. But soaring gas prices are now forcing them to park and
wait for passengers to come to them.


Daniel Ogwuu, an Austin cab driver for eight-years sat with his engine off
meaning he had no air-conditioning in 96-degree temperatures.


"By sitting down this way you have to spend more hours.  Instead of
finishing a 12-hour shift you still have to stay about two or three more
hours to achieve your goals.


Across town, Brian Lasseter, an IBM engineer is not phased by the rising gas
costs. That's because the member of Austin E.V., E.V. standing for electric
vehicles, just completed revamping a 2002 Saturn into a fully, efficient
electric car.


"We hear people talking about dependence on foreign oil like it's something
you can't do something about and we looked around and said sure we can do
something about it" says Lasseter.


The engineer spent $20,000 revamping the Saturn, a car which can get up to
100-miles an hour and run for 40 to 50-miles without being charged.


Lasseter says the non-profit group Austin E.V. has been getting more and
more inquiries from people who want to know more about building their own
electric vehicles.



________________________________

Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:05:21 -0500
From: achoate at gmail.com
To: ausev at austinev.org
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news

Hello all,

Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion
off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a
completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV
uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.

If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested
to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.

Cheers,

Aaron Choate

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From loopcat at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 05:45:29 2008
From: loopcat at yahoo.com (loopcat)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ausev] GE-12" on Ebay
In-Reply-To: <4825029D.2040301@bytetamer.com>
Message-ID: <610718.63966.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Looks like a solid motor. I wonder about the removable
shaft on that 7". Is that common?
I have a GE-11" that just got a little make-over.
Take a look..
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22369075 at N07/
 
--- "m. edmund howse" <bytedawg at bytetamer.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Here's another motor posssibly would be a good small
> car project motor.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Advanced-DC-Motor-7-BG5-4001-72-Volt-EV-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ150245367869QQihZ005QQcategoryZ26226QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> marv
> 
> 
> loopcat wrote:
> 
> >Hey Folks,
> > Here is an interesting motor. At 364lbs it might
> work
> >well in a Hummer! I emailed the seller about other
> >specs, epspecially the RPM's. No word yet.
> >Take a peek..
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=380024991685&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=025
> >All the Best, John in SA
> >
> >
> >     
>
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> >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now. 
>
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From csorenson1 at austin.rr.com  Sat May 10 13:10:53 2008
From: csorenson1 at austin.rr.com (Claire Sorenson)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:10:53 -0500
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
In-Reply-To: <0f5b01c8b255$12f17f00$6401a8c0@MediaRob>
References: <BLU108-W28410EC10E3DCE046F6618B3D20@phx.gbl>
	<0f5b01c8b255$12f17f00$6401a8c0@MediaRob>
Message-ID: <002a01c8b29f$46e5ab20$0302a8c0@yourf78bf48ce2>

Good job guys getting the word out, and congrats on the Saturn conversion.

-----Original Message-----
From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
Behalf Of Rob 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:20 PM
To: 'AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion'
Subject: Re: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news

http://www.youtube.com/v/Cxt5eG-uRXE


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From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
Behalf Of mark witt
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:25 PM
To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
Subject: Re: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news



Here's the text of a story I found. Mark W.



Mixed reaction to rising gas prices in Austin


09:24 PM CDT on Friday, May 9, 2008


By SHELTON GREEN
KVUE News


Climbing gas prices have one sect of our community lamenting the phenomenon
and another singing its praises.


Record breaking gas prices have many local cab drivers changing the way they
do business. For example, the cabbies parked in front of the downtown Hilton
say on any given Friday afternoon you could usually find them driving around
looking for fares. But soaring gas prices are now forcing them to park and
wait for passengers to come to them.


Daniel Ogwuu, an Austin cab driver for eight-years sat with his engine off
meaning he had no air-conditioning in 96-degree temperatures.


"By sitting down this way you have to spend more hours.  Instead of
finishing a 12-hour shift you still have to stay about two or three more
hours to achieve your goals.


Across town, Brian Lasseter, an IBM engineer is not phased by the rising gas
costs. That's because the member of Austin E.V., E.V. standing for electric
vehicles, just completed revamping a 2002 Saturn into a fully, efficient
electric car.


"We hear people talking about dependence on foreign oil like it's something
you can't do something about and we looked around and said sure we can do
something about it" says Lasseter.


The engineer spent $20,000 revamping the Saturn, a car which can get up to
100-miles an hour and run for 40 to 50-miles without being charged.


Lasseter says the non-profit group Austin E.V. has been getting more and
more inquiries from people who want to know more about building their own
electric vehicles.



________________________________

Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:05:21 -0500
From: achoate at gmail.com
To: ausev at austinev.org
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news

Hello all,

Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion
off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a
completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV
uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.

If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested
to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.

Cheers,

Aaron Choate

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From bytedawg at bytetamer.com  Sat May 10 18:31:29 2008
From: bytedawg at bytetamer.com (m. edmund howse)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:31:29 -0500
Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
In-Reply-To: <002a01c8b29f$46e5ab20$0302a8c0@yourf78bf48ce2>
References: <BLU108-W28410EC10E3DCE046F6618B3D20@phx.gbl>	<0f5b01c8b255$12f17f00$6401a8c0@MediaRob>
	<002a01c8b29f$46e5ab20$0302a8c0@yourf78bf48ce2>
Message-ID: <4825EA01.90001@bytetamer.com>

Hello everyone,

seems ebay has a bunch of interesting motors again. I bid on the one in 
the last e-mail but here's another and according to the listing they are 
indicating a pallet of motors in the near future.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CLUB-CAR-GE-OEM-DC-48V-7HP-19SPLINE-NEW-GOLFCART-MOTOR_W0QQitemZ140231855747QQihZ004QQcategoryZ40155QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
marv

Claire Sorenson wrote:

>Good job guys getting the word out, and congrats on the Saturn conversion.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
>Behalf Of Rob 
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:20 PM
>To: 'AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion'
>Subject: Re: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
>
>http://www.youtube.com/v/Cxt5eG-uRXE
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
>Behalf Of mark witt
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:25 PM
>To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
>Subject: Re: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
>
>
>
>Here's the text of a story I found. Mark W.
>
>
>
>Mixed reaction to rising gas prices in Austin
>
>
>09:24 PM CDT on Friday, May 9, 2008
>
>
>By SHELTON GREEN
>KVUE News
>
>
>Climbing gas prices have one sect of our community lamenting the phenomenon
>and another singing its praises.
>
>
>Record breaking gas prices have many local cab drivers changing the way they
>do business. For example, the cabbies parked in front of the downtown Hilton
>say on any given Friday afternoon you could usually find them driving around
>looking for fares. But soaring gas prices are now forcing them to park and
>wait for passengers to come to them.
>
>
>Daniel Ogwuu, an Austin cab driver for eight-years sat with his engine off
>meaning he had no air-conditioning in 96-degree temperatures.
>
>
>"By sitting down this way you have to spend more hours.  Instead of
>finishing a 12-hour shift you still have to stay about two or three more
>hours to achieve your goals.
>
>
>Across town, Brian Lasseter, an IBM engineer is not phased by the rising gas
>costs. That's because the member of Austin E.V., E.V. standing for electric
>vehicles, just completed revamping a 2002 Saturn into a fully, efficient
>electric car.
>
>
>"We hear people talking about dependence on foreign oil like it's something
>you can't do something about and we looked around and said sure we can do
>something about it" says Lasseter.
>
>
>The engineer spent $20,000 revamping the Saturn, a car which can get up to
>100-miles an hour and run for 40 to 50-miles without being charged.
>
>
>Lasseter says the non-profit group Austin E.V. has been getting more and
>more inquiries from people who want to know more about building their own
>electric vehicles.
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:05:21 -0500
>From: achoate at gmail.com
>To: ausev at austinev.org
>Subject: [ausev] Brian Lasseter (and AustinEV) in the news
>
>Hello all,
>
>Brian Lasseter was excited to finally get to show his new Saturn conversion
>off by displaying it at the IBM employee car show today.  Then, in a
>completely unrelated but convenient coincidence he got to keep his AustinEV
>uniform on later this afternoon to participate in a story for KVUE.
>
>If the story makes it to air it should be on at 10 tonight.  I am interested
>to see how it turns out and hope you can all tune in.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Aaron Choate
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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From tunafish at io.com  Sat May 10 20:06:50 2008
From: tunafish at io.com (tunafish at io.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:06:50 -0500
Subject: [ausev] In the news
References: <8fa91bfa0805091805t48e3f261q12ceac29224ad546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48260059.34192407@io.com>

Yes, it "made air" - both Friday night & Saturday morning!  My best
guess is, it may be (no promises) in Sunday's show as well - (7 AM- 9
AM).

I hope they didn't leave too much "on the cutting room floor"!

Thank you to Aaron, Brian & anyone else who scurried around last minute
to help with this story!!!

Pacem,
Tanda
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