[ausev] Rain-X may help to keep solar panels clean .
Dan Petit
dan-petit at att.net
Wed Mar 4 22:37:53 GMT 2009
From Dan Petit
I put Rain-X on my RV panels so that the rain rinses off pollen, even
though my
panels are almost flat-horizontal.
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> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:07:41 -0600
> From: Chris Frandsen <learner at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
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> Hi John:
> I put a 3Kw system on my parents house last April when we greened it
> before selling(it hasn't;-(
> Austin rebate is great and now with the 30% federal tax credit the
> actually cost is only about $2100.00.
> It is suggested that you clean them twice a year to keep the
> efficiency up. Yes, you need to get on the roof. It is not a difficult
> job if the roof pitch is not too bad.
> If it is steep I suggest hiring a window washer. The install company
> did not offer a maintenance contract but most items are warranties for
> 25 years. And they are required to service these items as part of the
> certification with Austin Energy!
>
> The Austin rebate program is one of the best in the country and beats
> the heck out of Perdenales which doesn't offer any rebate. But in 5
> years we have only done 800 roof tops in Austin.
>
> Good Luck!
> Chris F
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:10 PM, John Allen wrote:
>
>
>> Brian or any other group member with solar panels,
>> The recent stimulus package is making solar panels even more
>> affordable
>> which my wife and I are thinking about. I had some questions about
>> maintenance. Do you clean your panels? And how often? Do you get
>> up on
>> the roof? Does the installation company have a maintenance contract
>> available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
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> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:37:45 -0500
> From: gregmckay at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
> To: ausev at austinev.org
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> We do clean ours.? I am not sure we have any specified frequency, but we just watch to see when they start to look a little dingy.
>
> Whether you get u onthe roof to clean them will depend on your home and the roof itself.? We do not have to get on the roof to clean our panels; we do it from a ladder, and make it a two person job.? One person with the water and one person with the brush and squiggy.
>
> I know that there are companies that will perform the cleaning, but I suspect there is a large profit margin.
>
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> Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:10 pm
> Subject: [ausev] Solar panels
>
>
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> Brian or any other group member with solar panels,
> The recent stimulus package is making solar panels even more affordable
> which my wife and I are thinking about. I had some questions about
> maintenance. Do you clean your panels? And how often? Do you get up on
> the roof? Does the installation company have a maintenance contract
> available?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:15:03 -0600
> From: Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
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> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Chris Frandsen <learner at mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi John:
>> I put a 3Kw system on my parents house last April when we greened it
>> before selling(it hasn't;-(
>> Austin rebate is great and now with the 30% federal tax credit the
>> actually cost is only about $2100.00.
>> It is suggested that you clean them twice a year to keep the
>> efficiency up. Yes, you need to get on the roof. It is not a difficult
>> job if the roof pitch is not too bad.
>> If it is steep I suggest hiring a window washer. The install company
>> did not offer a maintenance contract but most items are warranties for
>> 25 years. And they are required to service these items as part of the
>> certification with Austin Energy!
>>
>> The Austin rebate program is one of the best in the country and beats
>> the heck out of Perdenales which doesn't offer any rebate. But in 5
>> years we have only done 800 roof tops in Austin.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>> Chris F
>>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:10 PM, John Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Brian or any other group member with solar panels,
>>> The recent stimulus package is making solar panels even more
>>> affordable
>>> which my wife and I are thinking about. I had some questions about
>>> maintenance. Do you clean your panels? And how often? Do you get
>>> up on
>>> the roof? Does the installation company have a maintenance contract
>>> available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AusEV mailing list
>>> AusEV at austinev.org
>>> http://www.austinev.org/mailman/listinfo/ausev
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:17:53 -0600
> From: Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
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> 801 ;-)
>
> I'm still waiting on my inverter.
>
> Oh one thing to note is you can keep adding on to your solar system each
> year.. so you can start with 3k (then with a big enough inverter) add
> another couple of K next year and qualify for a second rebate from austin..
> At least thats what my solar guys told me.
>
> Josh
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Chris Frandsen <learner at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi John:
>>> I put a 3Kw system on my parents house last April when we greened it
>>> before selling(it hasn't;-(
>>> Austin rebate is great and now with the 30% federal tax credit the
>>> actually cost is only about $2100.00.
>>> It is suggested that you clean them twice a year to keep the
>>> efficiency up. Yes, you need to get on the roof. It is not a difficult
>>> job if the roof pitch is not too bad.
>>> If it is steep I suggest hiring a window washer. The install company
>>> did not offer a maintenance contract but most items are warranties for
>>> 25 years. And they are required to service these items as part of the
>>> certification with Austin Energy!
>>>
>>> The Austin rebate program is one of the best in the country and beats
>>> the heck out of Perdenales which doesn't offer any rebate. But in 5
>>> years we have only done 800 roof tops in Austin.
>>>
>>> Good Luck!
>>> Chris F
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:10 PM, John Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Brian or any other group member with solar panels,
>>>> The recent stimulus package is making solar panels even more
>>>> affordable
>>>> which my wife and I are thinking about. I had some questions about
>>>> maintenance. Do you clean your panels? And how often? Do you get
>>>> up on
>>>> the roof? Does the installation company have a maintenance contract
>>>> available?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:40:13 -0600
> From: Gary Ellis <austinev at rcnmotors.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
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> I have a 3kW system as well and it is interesting to know that I can add to
> it and continue to take advantage of the rebates. I'll look into that -
> thanks.
>
> As for washing it, I only do it a few times a year and haven't really looked
> to see if it helps the efficiency, but that is easy enough to do with
> Austin's cookie-cutter weather forecasts and two back to back nice sunny
> days. My array is a big square, so I use one of those car wash brushes that
> connects to a garden hose in the handle. I don't bother with soap as I'm
> just washing the dust off (mostly pollen from the trees).
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net> wrote:
>
>
>> 801 ;-)
>>
>> I'm still waiting on my inverter.
>>
>> Oh one thing to note is you can keep adding on to your solar system each
>> year.. so you can start with 3k (then with a big enough inverter) add
>> another couple of K next year and qualify for a second rebate from austin..
>> At least thats what my solar guys told me.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Chris Frandsen <learner at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi John:
>>>> I put a 3Kw system on my parents house last April when we greened it
>>>> before selling(it hasn't;-(
>>>> Austin rebate is great and now with the 30% federal tax credit the
>>>> actually cost is only about $2100.00.
>>>> It is suggested that you clean them twice a year to keep the
>>>> efficiency up. Yes, you need to get on the roof. It is not a difficult
>>>> job if the roof pitch is not too bad.
>>>> If it is steep I suggest hiring a window washer. The install company
>>>> did not offer a maintenance contract but most items are warranties for
>>>> 25 years. And they are required to service these items as part of the
>>>> certification with Austin Energy!
>>>>
>>>> The Austin rebate program is one of the best in the country and beats
>>>> the heck out of Perdenales which doesn't offer any rebate. But in 5
>>>> years we have only done 800 roof tops in Austin.
>>>>
>>>> Good Luck!
>>>> Chris F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:10 PM, John Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brian or any other group member with solar panels,
>>>>> The recent stimulus package is making solar panels even more
>>>>> affordable
>>>>> which my wife and I are thinking about. I had some questions about
>>>>> maintenance. Do you clean your panels? And how often? Do you get
>>>>> up on
>>>>> the roof? Does the installation company have a maintenance contract
>>>>> available?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> AusEV mailing list
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> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:53:41 -0600
> From: Gary Ellis <austinev at rcnmotors.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Hybred 18 wheeler?
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
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> I called about this to see what it's about and it is just some fellow with
> an idea of running his 18-wheeler like a locomotive, using the diesel engine
> to run a generator/electric motor at highway speeds to get better mpg. He's
> just looking for an electrical engineer to look over his design, so I'll
> take a look later this month and see what he has in mind. Apparently, he
> has Mack Truck interested and is filing for patents now.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Clendon Gibson <bsandyman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Spotted this job add on the Austin American Statesman classifieds. I figure
>> some of the folks on the list meet the qualifications and should send a
>> resume.
>>
>>
>> http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-JRKQ7FPXPTX;_ylt=Ao9KQqih7TJq7IeSvkPpFQL6Q6IX?source=SRP
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> From: red scott <redscott77092 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Hybred 18 wheeler?
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
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> I wonder why I always get 2 or 3 or even 6 or 7 copies of each message in my inbox.
> ?
> I wonder if it's because some people click on "Reply All" and end up adding several copies of each address in the "cc:" list.
> ?
> ?
> Randy
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Gary Ellis <austinev at rcnmotors.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary Ellis <austinev at rcnmotors.com>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Hybred 18 wheeler?
> To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion" <ausev at austinev.org>
> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 10:53 AM
>
>
> I called about this to see what it's about and it is just some fellow with an idea of running his 18-wheeler like a locomotive, using the diesel engine to run a generator/electric motor at highway speeds to get better mpg.? He's just looking for an electrical engineer to look over his design, so I'll take a look later this month and see what he has in mind.? Apparently, he has Mack Truck interested and is filing for patents now.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Clendon Gibson <bsandyman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Spotted this job add on the Austin American Statesman classifieds. I figure some of the folks on the list meet the qualifications and should send a resume.
>
> http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-JRKQ7FPXPTX;_ylt=Ao9KQqih7TJq7IeSvkPpFQL6Q6IX?source=SRP
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> From: bytedawg at bytetamer.com
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Hybred 18 wheeler?
> To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
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> I never get more than one!
>
> marv
>
>
> I wonder why I always get 2 or 3 or even 6 or 7 copies of
> each message in my inbox.
> ?
> I wonder if it's because some people click on "Reply
> All" and end up adding several copies of each address in
> the "cc:" list.
> ?
> ?
> Randy
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Gary Ellis
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary Ellis
>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Hybred 18 wheeler?
> To:
> "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
>
> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 10:53 AM
>
>
> I called about this to see what it's
> about and it is just some fellow with an idea of running his
> 18-wheeler like a locomotive, using the diesel engine to run a
> generator/electric motor at highway speeds to get better mpg.
> He's just looking for an electrical engineer to look over his
> design, so I'll take a look later this month and see what he
> has in mind. Apparently, he has Mack Truck interested and is
> filing for patents now.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM,
> Clendon Gibson bsandyman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Spotted this
> job add on the Austin American Statesman classifieds. I figure
> some of the folks on the list meet the qualifications and
> should send a resume.
>
> http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-JRKQ7FPXPTX;_ylt=Ao9KQqih7TJq7IeSvkPpFQL6Q6IX?source=SRP
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> From: Brian Lasseter <blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org>
> Subject: Re: [ausev] Solar panels
> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
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> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Josh Handel <jhandel at ktomics.net> wrote:
>
>> Oh one thing to note is you can keep adding on to your solar system each
>> year.. so you can start with 3k (then with a big enough inverter) add
>> another couple of K next year and qualify for a second rebate from austin..
>> At least thats what my solar guys told me.
>>
>
> It's true... I have a pair of 3.328kw systems using 208w Sharp
> panels... Making for 6.656 kw total on my roof. All told the city
> paid me $27k to put the panels up there, and Uncle Sam paid me another
> $4k. (That was over 2 years of course.) I've probably got room up
> there for another 6 kw of solar on my roof, but I'm investing in a
> Geothermal heat pump this year as my A/C is almost dead and the
> stimulus bill also lifted the $2k cap on tax credits for geothermal
> heat pumps. The geothermal heat pump should cut my electric bill by
> 2/3rds, meaning that I will be generating more electricity than I use
> (even with the electric car).
>
> As for cleaning... I am embarrassed to say that I have never cleaned
> my solar panels. The oldest ones up on my roof are almost 2 years
> old. However I have never noticed any significant power drop off, nor
> have I noticed any real difference between the power generated my
> first set and my second set. I imagine the occasional rain and hail
> cleans them enough to keep my power generation well within spec.
>
> I will take this as notice that I should go up and do that. :-)
>
>
>
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