[ausev] 110 or 220??

Aaron Choate achoate at gmail.com
Tue Feb 2 19:20:05 GMT 2010


To add to this, the requirements to allow 220 charging from upcoming public
charging stations when/if they appear are likely to require vehicle
communication and specialized (J1772) plugs to activate the charging
sequence.  While there is no guarantee that a 120 outlet will be provided at
all down the road, they are what are most likely to be appearing in the
short term in most initial tests.  Whether that 120 outlet is like the ones
in your home is another question.  Though, as I recall, these plugs are
allowed to be included without special provisions.  In fact, the Electric
Vehicle charging spots at the SEDL building at the Mueller redevelopment are
just that... standard 120 outlets in outdoor enclosures with a sign. (asking
that you be visiting them if you are using the spots)

Cheers,

/Aaron Choate

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Brian Lasseter <
blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, The Mullins <ckmullins at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > I’m determined to leave my rear trunk uncluttered (except for 2 batteries
> > half-sunk into the floor). My search for a charger that would fit in the
> > front trunk has led me to conclude that I have to use the Zivan NG3.
> (Unless
> > there’s another charger out there that’s only 4’ tall)
> >
> > This means that I have to choose between 110 and 220 Volts input. I can
> > install either one in my home charging station and I don’t commute
> anywhere
> > so that means I will be at the mercy of other (unknown) sites for
> > opportunity charging.
> >
> >
> >
> > What do we know about public charging sites that are, or will be, out
> there
> > in the near future? Will they be 110, 220 or both?? That is the question.
>
>
> As someone who has driven an electric car nearly every day for the
> past year and a half... I can tell you that 99% of opportunity
> charging sites are regular NEMA 5-15 plugs.  IBM has NEMA 5-20 plugs
> which is nice, and I only once used a 240V dryer outlet at a friend's
> house.  Normally I just use the NEMA 5-15 plugs at friend's houses
> since I carry 50' of 120V 15A extension cord, while my 240V 30A
> extension cord is only 20' long.
>
> That being said... even though most opportunity charging is NEMA 5-15
> at 120VAC... 80% of the times that I charge my car, I am at home.
> Charging faster at 240VAC at home is really nice; I can charge the car
> in 2hrs over dinner, and head back out for evening errands.
>
>
> If you stick with 120VAC to allow opportunity charging, you could
> install a special 30A, 40A, or even 50A 120VAC circuit in your house.
> While common sense would tell you to run any household appliance that
> needed that much current at 240VAC, you could run a high current
> 120VAC feed directly from your breaker panel.  This would require
> copper wire twice as thick as a 240VAC feed with the same power, but
> you save money by only having one charger.  L5-30 and TT-30 plugs
> allow for 30A @ 120VAC, or you could pull 50A out of one leg of a NEMA
> 14-50 plug.
>
> Also, any money spent on your house qualifies you for a tax credit for
> installing an "Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Station".
>
>
> --
> TTFN,
> Brian "Lasso" Lasseter
>
> "No Sane man will dance."   -Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
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