[ausev] 110 or 220??

[John T]

http://www.electrificationcoalition.org/

This appears to be an attempt to do what we have been discussing here,  
providing a roadmap for infrastructure development.

Sent from John's iPhone.

On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Aaron Choate <achoate at gmail.com> wrote:

> To add to this, the requirements to allow 220 charging from upcoming  
> public charging stations when/if they appear are likely to require  
> vehicle communication and specialized (J1772) plugs to activate the  
> charging sequence.  While there is no guarantee that a 120 outlet  
> will be provided at all down the road, they are what are most likely  
> to be appearing in the short term in most initial tests.  Whether  
> that 120 outlet is like the ones in your home is another question.   
> Though, as I recall, these plugs are allowed to be included without  
> special provisions.  In fact, the Electric Vehicle charging spots at  
> the SEDL building at the Mueller redevelopment are just that...  
> standard 120 outlets in outdoor enclosures with a sign. (asking that  
> you be visiting them if you are using the spots)
>
> Cheers,
>
> /Aaron Choate
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Brian Lasseter <blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org 
> > wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, The Mullins  
> <ckmullins at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I’m determined to leave my rear trunk uncluttered (except for 2 ba 
> tteries
> > half-sunk into the floor). My search for a charger that would fit  
> in the
> > front trunk has led me to conclude that I have to use the Zivan  
> NG3. (Unless
> > there’s another charger out there that’s only 4’ tall)
> >
> > This means that I have to choose between 110 and 220 Volts input.  
> I can
> > install either one in my home charging station and I don’t commute 
>  anywhere
> > so that means I will be at the mercy of other (unknown) sites for
> > opportunity charging.
> >
> >
> >
> > What do we know about public charging sites that are, or will be,  
> out there
> > in the near future? Will they be 110, 220 or both?? That is the  
> question.
>
>
> As someone who has driven an electric car nearly every day for the
> past year and a half... I can tell you that 99% of opportunity
> charging sites are regular NEMA 5-15 plugs.  IBM has NEMA 5-20 plugs
> which is nice, and I only once used a 240V dryer outlet at a friend's
> house.  Normally I just use the NEMA 5-15 plugs at friend's houses
> since I carry 50' of 120V 15A extension cord, while my 240V 30A
> extension cord is only 20' long.
>
> That being said... even though most opportunity charging is NEMA 5-15
> at 120VAC... 80% of the times that I charge my car, I am at home.
> Charging faster at 240VAC at home is really nice; I can charge the car
> in 2hrs over dinner, and head back out for evening errands.
>
>
> If you stick with 120VAC to allow opportunity charging, you could
> install a special 30A, 40A, or even 50A 120VAC circuit in your house.
> While common sense would tell you to run any household appliance that
> needed that much current at 240VAC, you could run a high current
> 120VAC feed directly from your breaker panel.  This would require
> copper wire twice as thick as a 240VAC feed with the same power, but
> you save money by only having one charger.  L5-30 and TT-30 plugs
> allow for 30A @ 120VAC, or you could pull 50A out of one leg of a NEMA
> 14-50 plug.
>
> Also, any money spent on your house qualifies you for a tax credit for
> installing an "Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Station".
>
>
> --
> TTFN,
> Brian "Lasso" Lasseter
>
> "No Sane man will dance."   -Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
>
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