[ausev] Chargins stations...

[Lionel Hinojosa]

Guys,
 
Liability is a BIG deterrent to doing the Home Depot thing.  One screw up and it will put the whole EV idea in the hole.  It will be labeled unsafe, too costly, raises ins cost for the business owner, since he had it put in.  Or AustinEV can foot the bill for the materials or pay for the electricity.  
 
BUT we must be careful and not get ahead of ourselves because there are a number of regulations coming down the pipe that may impact those so called charging stations.  Lets do it right and support the installation of a manufactured UL Approved Networked Charging Station


Leo Hinojosa
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--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Brian Lasseter <blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org> wrote:


From: Brian Lasseter <blasseter.cmpe01 at gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: [ausev] Chargins stations...
To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion" <ausev at austinev.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:57 PM


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Aaron Choate <achoate at gmail.com> wrote:
> To add to this, the requirements to allow 220 charging from upcoming public
> charging stations when/if they appear are likely to require vehicle
> communication and specialized (J1772) plugs to activate the charging
> sequence.

While 220V charging, a smart electricity grid, and J1772 standard
plugs are all good things...


I am not yet sold on how they could permeate the market appearing everywhere.

I mean if I am a store, or a property owner... I can go to home depot,
buy a metal pipe, attach a weatherproof plastic electrical box to it
with an outdoor rated NEMA 5-20 plug with GFCI... and now I have an
electric vehicle recharging station for less than $100 in materials.
Then I just need $63/year to pay for the electricity for that lone
plug.  ($63 for electricity presumes $0.015/kwh commercial rates,
charging at 15A, and using it continuously for 9hrs/day and
5days/week.)

Compare that $163 for a dumb plug to at least $2000 for a shiny new
J1772 smart charging station... and I'm unsure why I would opt for it.

To be fair... for $2000 the shiny new J1772 charging station should be
able to charge exorbitant amounts of money for electricity by
requiring a credit card or a cell phone... so I might could make money
off of such an endeavor, but I would need a lot of people charging to
make back that amount of money.  The cost for a dumb plug is so low as
to be a "why not do this to attract customers".


-- 
TTFN,
Brian "Lasso" Lasseter

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