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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let's go for a ride!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>If your device works, come out to Seguin, and we will fill up your car and
drive to Houston - or maybe avoid the traffic and just go to Katy. <BR><BR>We
will record the time of day, the temperature, and the amount of time we took to
get to Katy. Then, we can turn around in Katy, and come back to Seguin and fill
that car up, and see how many miles to the gallon it gets. Then we will take a
second trip to Katy, and try to match the speed, as best as we can. When we
return for the second time, we will get another fill up. Easy! <BR><BR>Here are
the conditions of the test. </DIV>
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<LI>Only one of the trips will have the device activated
<LI>Neither of us will know which trip it was until both trips are over and the
tank is refilled.
<LI>A third party will be required to set the device on or off and disable the
"computer" chip, if you have one.</LI>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A Blind test is the only way to prove these devices work.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bytedawg@bytetamer.com href="mailto:bytedawg@bytetamer.com">m. edmund
howse</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ausev@austinev.org
href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org">AustinEV News Announcements and General
Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:32
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the
HHO generator</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>One of my favorite phrases is " Be skeptical and you'll never
be disappointed." So it is easy to<BR>see why some disbelieve the videos on
the internet but I have built my own hho generator and my<BR>third prototype
produces significant gas. The first two were not expected to and they
performed as I expected. I'm sure there are scammers trying to get rich off of
the desperate public but to label them all evil or corrupt is probably not
right. As far as energy is concerned there are 1800, roughly, gallons of
hydrogen in a gallon of water and pound for pound hydrogen has more energy
than gasoline. The oil and automotive industry are seriously considering
hydrogen power and they do not want the public to be able to parasitically
take advantage of their power. They want to drain us dry and control us like
they have been all of these years. <BR>I've heard lots of speculation why gas
prices are so high today and I will suggest to you that the oil industry is
actually to blame and of course this includes GW Bushwhacker and Dick
"shotgun" Cheney.<BR>My point is, there are a lot of technology savvy people
creating simple methods of energy conservation and I'd believe them before I'd
believe our present government, large corporations or someone who has never
gone where others have dared to tread and mock them for making claims that
seem to be extraordinary. Remember, life itself is a miracle. How do you
qualify it!!<BR><BR>marv<BR><BR><BR>John Penry at TransTexasTrucks wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Almost.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We used to have a saying in
software.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Q. What's the difference between a software
salesman and a used car salesman?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A. The used car salesman knows he is
lying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The YouTube videos show a tank of water, and it
fizzes like a 7-up when the juice is applied. But that is not going to
produce near enough Hydrogen gas with only 12 volts. Hyrdoxy torches
use 10,000 volts to create their gas, and it takes a while, from what I have
read. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>These scams are just aided by journalists who
don't check with knowledgeable people before airing these
stories.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.T. Barnum would be proud.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=bsandyman@yahoo.com href="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Clendon Gibson</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=ausev@austinev.org href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">AustinEV News Announcements and General
Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, July 04, 2008 10:27 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know how much that much hydrogen would help or if the benefit
would be worthwhile. <BR><BR>As I said, if done properly, this could be of
benefit. If all you get is a balloon full every 25 minutes and if that
much isn't enough to significantly affect the MPG, then I would suggest it
has not been done properly. <BR><BR>That is the essence of the scam. Not
that the idea is bad, but that the conman has not bothered to do it well
enough to justify it as an improvement. <BR><BR>The point I am trying to
make is that this con is the difference between good engineering and bad
engineering, not good science and bad science. <BR></DIV>
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Original Message ----<BR>From: John Penry at TransTexasTrucks <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:jpenry@transtexastrucks.com"><jpenry@transtexastrucks.com></A><BR>To:
Clendon Gibson <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com"><bsandyman@yahoo.com></A>;
AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"><ausev@austinev.org></A><BR>Sent:
Friday, July 4, 2008 9:25:57 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for
the HHO generator<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Octane rating of Hydrogen is about
50. How does a balloon full of Hydrogen every 25 minutes improve
mileage?</FONT></DIV>
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Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
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<A title=bsandyman@yahoo.com href="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow moz-do-not-send="true"
ymailto="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com">Clendon Gibson</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=ausev@austinev.org href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"
target=_blank rel=nofollow moz-do-not-send="true"
ymailto="mailto:ausev@austinev.org">AustinEV News Announcements and
General Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, July 04, 2008 8:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator</DIV>
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<DIV>It sounds to me like what the guy is saying is that the offers to
do this are scams. They claim they are revolutionary and they are
realling touting a princible that had been known and understood for
quite some time.<BR><BR>There is the additional safety concern of having
quantaties of oxygen or hydrogen somewhere. <BR><BR>However hydrogen or
oxygen would boost the power of the ICE using gasloline and if done
properly could lead to greater fuel efficiency. One has to wonder how a
car burning hydrogen and oxygen only would perform. <BR><BR>Now whether
such thing would lower your fuel bills is something else entirely.
<BR></DIV>
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Original Message ----<BR>From: Michael <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:mringer@austin.rr.com"><mringer@austin.rr.com></A><BR>To:
AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"><ausev@austinev.org></A><BR>Sent:
Saturday, July 5, 2008 12:18:23 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL
for the HHO generator<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If
you believe this guy it¢s a complete scam</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/</A></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:ausev-bounces@austinev.org">ausev-bounces@austinev.org</A>
[mailto:</SPAN> <SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/ausev-bounces@austinev.org%5D"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/ausev-bounces@austinev.org]</A>
<B>On Behalf Of </B>John Penry at TransTexasTrucks<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, July 04, 2008 3:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> AustinEV News Announcements
and General Discussion<BR><B>Cc:</B> The Alamo City Electric Auto
Association's Discussion List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ausev] The Real URL
for the HHO generator</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Notice how
the URL never changes as you click different videos. My
mistake.</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.ksat.com/video/16787078/index.html" target=_blank
rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ksat.com/video/16787078/index.html</A></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cambridge
says they sold 10,000 of these at $1500
each.</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I would never
let greed allow me to take advantage of people this way.
</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Even for 10
million bucks.</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.transtexastrucks.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.transtexastrucks.com</A><BR>I decided
to challenge the Automakers.<BR>I will make a Plug in Series Hybrid
Crew-Cab Pickup before Detroit does.<BR>But if I lose this race, we all
become winners.</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
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