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One of my favorite phrases is " Be skeptical and you'll never be
disappointed." So it is easy to<br>
see why some disbelieve the videos on the internet but I have built my
own hho generator and my<br>
third prototype produces significant gas. The first two were not
expected to and they performed as I expected. I'm sure there are
scammers trying to get rich off of the desperate public but to label
them all evil or corrupt is probably not right. As far as energy is
concerned there are 1800, roughly, gallons of hydrogen in a gallon of
water and pound for pound hydrogen has more energy than gasoline. The
oil and automotive industry are seriously considering hydrogen power
and they do not want the public to be able to parasitically take
advantage of their power. They want to drain us dry and control us like
they have been all of these years. <br>
I've heard lots of speculation why gas prices are so high today and I
will suggest to you that the oil industry is actually to blame and of
course this includes GW Bushwhacker and Dick "shotgun" Cheney.<br>
My point is, there are a lot of technology savvy people creating simple
methods of energy conservation and I'd believe them before I'd believe
our present government, large corporations or someone who has never
gone where others have dared to tread and mock them for making claims
that seem to be extraordinary. Remember, life itself is a miracle. How
do you qualify it!!<br>
<br>
marv<br>
<br>
<br>
John Penry at TransTexasTrucks wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Almost.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">We used to have a saying in software.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Q. What's the difference between a
software salesman and a used car salesman?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">A. The used car salesman knows he
is lying.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The YouTube videos show a tank of
water, and it fizzes like a 7-up when the juice is applied. But that
is not going to produce near enough Hydrogen gas with only 12 volts.
Hyrdoxy torches use 10,000 volts to create their gas, and it takes a
while, from what I have read. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">These scams are just aided by
journalists who don't check with knowledgeable people before airing
these stories.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">P.T. Barnum would be proud.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">John</font></div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="bsandyman@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com">Clendon Gibson</a> </div>
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Friday, July 04, 2008 10:27 PM</div>
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Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator</div>
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<div>I don't know how much that much hydrogen would help or if the
benefit would be worthwhile. <br>
<br>
As I said, if done properly, this could be of benefit. If all you get
is a balloon full every 25 minutes and if that much isn't enough to
significantly affect the MPG, then I would suggest it has not been done
properly. <br>
<br>
That is the essence of the scam. Not that the idea is bad, but that the
conman has not bothered to do it well enough to justify it as an
improvement. <br>
<br>
The point I am trying to make is that this con is the difference
between good engineering and bad engineering, not good science and bad
science. <br>
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From: John Penry at TransTexasTrucks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jpenry@transtexastrucks.com"><jpenry@transtexastrucks.com></a><br>
To: Clendon Gibson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com"><bsandyman@yahoo.com></a>; AustinEV News
Announcements and General Discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"><ausev@austinev.org></a><br>
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 9:25:57 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The Octane rating of Hydrogen is
about 50. How does a balloon full of Hydrogen every 25 minutes improve
mileage?</font></div>
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ymailto="mailto:bsandyman@yahoo.com">Clendon Gibson</a> </div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="ausev@austinev.org"
href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:ausev@austinev.org">AustinEV News Announcements and
General Discussion</a> </div>
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Friday, July 04, 2008 8:19 PM</div>
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Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator</div>
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<div>It sounds to me like what the guy is saying is that the
offers to do this are scams. They claim they are revolutionary and they
are realling touting a princible that had been known and understood for
quite some time.<br>
<br>
There is the additional safety concern of having quantaties of oxygen
or hydrogen somewhere. <br>
<br>
However hydrogen or oxygen would boost the power of the ICE using
gasloline and if done properly could lead to greater fuel efficiency.
One has to wonder how a car burning hydrogen and oxygen only would
perform. <br>
<br>
Now whether such thing would lower your fuel bills is something else
entirely. <br>
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To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org"><ausev@austinev.org></a><br>
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 12:18:23 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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you believe this guy it¢s a complete scam</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/</a></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausev-bounces@austinev.org">ausev-bounces@austinev.org</a> [mailto:</span> <span
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href="http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/ausev-bounces@austinev.org%5D"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2006/07/14/the-latest-scientific-breakthrough-scam-water-gas/ausev-bounces@austinev.org]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Penry at TransTexasTrucks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 04, 2008 3:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion<br>
<b>Cc:</b> The Alamo City Electric Auto Association's Discussion
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ausev] The Real URL for the HHO generator</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Notice how
the URL never changes as you click different videos. My mistake.</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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href="http://www.ksat.com/video/16787078/index.html" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">http://www.ksat.com/video/16787078/index.html</a></span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Cambridge
says they sold 10,000 of these at $1500 each.</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">I would
never let greed allow me to take advantage of people this way. </span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Even for
10 million bucks.</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.transtexastrucks.com"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.transtexastrucks.com</a><br>
I decided to challenge the Automakers.<br>
I will make a Plug in Series Hybrid Crew-Cab Pickup before Detroit does.<br>
But if I lose this race, we all become winners.</span><span></span></p>
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