<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
        margin-right:0in;
        mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
        margin-left:0in;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page Section1
        {size:8.5in 11.0in;
        margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
        {page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There are several with electric start at Northern Tools. (up to
10kW)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200369640_200369640">http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200369640_200369640</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Or for even more power (10-17kW)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_36+280777+770945">http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_36+280777+770945</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Be aware that most of their run times are estimated at ½ loads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Marc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausev-bounces@austinev.org
[mailto:ausev-bounces@austinev.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Watson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 22, 2008 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I am open to putting something
in the bed of the truck. I just saw a 10,000W 13 gl, 9HP, 30A @ 240v. They say
it will run for 24 hours.($999.00) That sounds like it would have way more
miles to the gallon than my current 10mile/gal. It would be real cool if there
was some sort of auto start that would start the gen when battery power was
getting low. Is there anything like that?<br>
<br>
Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Mike Seningen (mobile) <<a
href="mailto:mseningen@austin.rr.com">mseningen@austin.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>probably hairbrained .... But could you put a small air
cooled enigine in the bed... Maybe a VW beetle engine whose sole purpose is to
generate elctricity for the pack to extend range????<br>
<br>
Michael Seningen<br>
Mbile Phone Account<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
<br>
From: JohnFM <<a href="mailto:johnfm101@gmail.com">johnfm101@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subj: Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500<br>
Date: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:24 pm<br>
Size: 2K<br>
To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion" <<a
href="mailto:ausev@austinev.org">ausev@austinev.org</a>><br>
<br>
My old conversion used to have a setup like this. It had a Honda 2000<br>
watt generator hooked up to the 20amp charger (to supplement the<br>
pack), it would rev up and down depending on current draw. It gave an<br>
extra boost in range, but was incredibly inefficient. Most generators<br>
of that type are not that efficient and to power the car completely<br>
your going to need at least something on the order of 10k watts.<br>
Voltage doesn't factor that much into it, most generators have 220V or<br>
110V ratings already capable of doing this. It's really the power<br>
rating of the generator and the charge current rating of the charger<br>
or whatever you plan to connect the generator to.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Jim Watson <<a
href="mailto:osious@gmail.com">osious@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I bet you guys have already thought about this. So let me bounce this off
of<br>
> ya,..<br>
><br>
> I have been thinking about buying a generator with enough juice to power
an<br>
> electric motor for my big truck. All this talk about a 40 hp bus and train<br>
> motors just makes me wonder. I think a generator that produces 220V is
small<br>
> enough to fit in the engine compartment. I don't think a 220V Gen would be<br>
> big enough either. I am new to car converting so I am unsure of the
voltages<br>
> required. I think it is more like around 400 - 500 volts (460V ??)<br>
><br>
> I wonder if there is some sort of throttle controller out there that would<br>
> control the speed or output of the generator, that would only allow the<br>
> generator to produce just the power that the electric motor needed for the<br>
> desired speed of the vehicle. I am toying with the idea of leaving the<br>
> transfer case and tranny in it. I need to do some research on generators
to<br>
> see. Depending on the motor and generator I may be able to make the truck<br>
> more torque-y and or powerful. I think the transfer case and transmission<br>
> have hydraulic lines that run to the engine for gear changing. The current<br>
> tranny is auto. This makes things even more difficult.<br>
><br>
> I read that some one saw a SUV in Florida, it was pulling a trailer with a<br>
> generator on it chugging away. They said that it was complete with a huge<br>
> wire running from the Gen. to the Vehicle. If the Generator needs to be so<br>
> big that it needs a whole trailer then it is not worth it. Plus it looks<br>
> stupid. (then it WOULD be a train) hahahaha Then I would stick with<br>
> converting to pure electric. As much as I hate using gas in a conversion
it<br>
> still seems like an interesting idea for a big truck.<br>
><br>
> Any ideas,..<br>
><br>
> Jim<br>
><br>
><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal>--- message truncated ---<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
AusEV mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusEV@austinev.org">AusEV@austinev.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.austinev.org/mailman/listinfo/ausev" target="_blank">http://www.austinev.org/mailman/listinfo/ausev</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No virus
found in this incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com<br>
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/22/2008
11:23 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>